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Topic: what do you think about punk...
Posted By: Kord
Subject: what do you think about punk...
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:18
.....what do you think about punk????I personally hate it (except Clash)...But I can't stand Sex Pistols and the other punk band....they are not able to play

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:21
I like Punk, some of it anyway. Sex Pistols, Clash, Crass, Buzzcocks, The Vibratores etc......

BTW, this is not a prog poll.


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Posted By: GuilhermeDrigo
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:24
Punk is disgusting
except by The Clash which i really can't understand why is told to be one of their icons
their music doesn't even sound like punk


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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:25
Originally posted by GuilhermeDrigo GuilhermeDrigo wrote:

Punk is disgusting
except by The Clash which i really can't understand why is told to be one of their icons
their music doesn't even sound like punk
I agree with you....they have made punk lyrics but they play rock'n'roll, rockabilly,reggaeand ska....


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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:32
I don't have anything against it. I haven't heard many punk bands, but I'd definitely be interested in hearing Dead Kennedys, The Stranglers, and some post-punk bands such as Joy Division etc. Just haven't got around to getting anything yet.

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:34
Again...why did you put this in Prog Polls?????????

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Posted By: daghrastubfari
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:36
Personally I think there's nothing wrong with punk. Especially the more original punk, like the Dead Kennedys. It's not my favourite genre, but I really can enjoy it.
Of course some punk is dreadful (like whiny emo/poppunk), but in any musical genre there are bands I don't like.
So I think there's nothing wrong with punk.


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:51

Eeewww... Disgusting



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:58
Some is OK, some is pure crap!

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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 11:03
There's some good punk, like The Clash, The Strangler, and The Jam. But a lot of it really awful. Pretty much all the stuff that gets released today is trash. I would rather eat sh*t than listen to Simple Plan, that's an easy one. The Stranglers actually did a live album with Bob Fripp, Peter Hammil, Ian Underwood, Steve Hilllage, and Nik Turner. And John Lydon was a fan of Peter Hammil, Can, Hawkwind and Captain Beefheart. He actually tried to join Can in the late seventies, and they covered Silver Machine on their reunion tour. The myth that punks in the 70's hated prog is not true. Punk did not kill prog, it was the music industry that wanted prog to become more commercial, thus causing it to loose its artistic values.

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 12:35
I know some cool punks.  I don't especially like the genre of music, I have about as much expertise on punk as punks do on progressive metal.

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 12:39
I only like some punk aspects when used in a rock format (Police, Talking Heads, some Clash). That's about it. Absolutely no new punk for me.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 13:02
I have no problem with punk as it was in the 70's, apart from rubbish like the Ramones. UK punk was pretty good IMO. Bands like Souxsie & the Banshees were brilliant.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 13:15
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I have no problem with punk as it was in the 70's, apart from rubbish like the Ramones. UK punk was pretty good IMO. Bands like Souxsie & the Banshees were brilliant.


Yeah, you're right....but SO WERE THE RAMONES!Angry


Wink


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 13:28
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I have no problem with punk as it was in the 70's, apart from rubbish like the Ramones. UK punk was pretty good IMO. Bands like Souxsie & the Banshees were brilliant.
Yeah, you're right....but SO WERE THE RAMONES!


I must have heard a different Ramones, because the one I heard was pants!


     

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 13:33
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I have no problem with punk as it was in the 70's, apart from rubbish like the Ramones. UK punk was pretty good IMO. Bands like Souxsie & the Banshees were brilliant.
Yeah, you're right....but SO WERE THE RAMONES!


I must have heard a different Ramones, because the one I heard was pants!


     


What about The Buzzcocks? Huh? Please give your judgement!


Ouch


Clown





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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 13:42
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I have no problem with punk as it was in the 70's, apart from rubbish like the Ramones. UK punk was pretty good IMO. Bands like Souxsie & the Banshees were brilliant.
Yeah, you're right....but SO WERE THE RAMONES!


I must have heard a different Ramones, because the one I heard was pants!


     
What about The Buzzcocks? Huh? Please give your judgement!


Fantastic! Very clever intelligent music, and surprisingly prog..

Ok, I'm talking bollox. The Buzzcocks were ok, but I never really liked the singers voice. I prefered the darker stuff like The Damned and Siouxsie. I thought the Clash had great moments too. They seemed to vary their song writing style a lot. The Stranglers (Punk Related??) were excellent.

I'm no Ramones expert, but what I've heard sounds too grounded in Rock 'n' Roll. To basic...

Exhibit A: 'Sheila is a Punk Rocker'..
     

Runs for cover....

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 14:37
I like Post-punk much more, but Punk is very rewarding too.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 14:41
Some of the music from the punk era is great, some of it is dreadful. There doesn't seem to be an option for that.


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 14:43
I'm sorry but almost all (99.9%) of punk that I heard I didn't like and others I hate.
The only punk I can enjoy are bands that use influence from punk to mix with their own sound.


It's just another music genre...wich I don't like at all and played by angry cavemens.


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 15:36
Originally posted by Kord Kord wrote:

I personally hate it (except Clash)...

I also respect the Clash...and hate punk in general...

Well, lets not forget that real punk is dead...I mean, how exacly are todays "punk" band really punk? Green Day? Good Charlotte? Thouse b*****d sons from Mtv...???? C´moooooooon


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Posted By: Pneubauer
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:14
I voted disgusting... sure... some punk is probably good... some may even be very good... but theres SO MUCH bad stuff... and plus all the HORRIBLE little imps that punk spewed forth from its tainted womb... ie. pop punk, emo... and all that other... well... I cant really call it 'music'...

I just cant see the Clash as being punk... but if they are punk, then theyre the best damn punk band I know of.  


Posted By: OrionCrystalIce
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:28
Punk rock and the Internet are the biggest purveyors of bad bands to have ever existed. Reason being, typically, music comes from vision, fire, ambition, and punk rock + the WWW have told people they can still do music but without having any of these,.. rather, that they can pull it off with only so much as a guitar and a garage and nothing better to do. The so-called rebellion is a big mass conformist orgy of mediocrity and a mockery of music in all it's art forms - from the simplest to the most complex. Tom Petty is mostly three chords too, but Tom Petty has soul, purpose. The majority of punk bands and bands spawned from them do not. Furthermore, there's no "message", "energy", or "groove" that punk trips over that I can't find done better in other legitimate genres.



I dig the Clash.


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Posted By: Toon
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:43
I'm not really into punk bands such as the Sex Pistols or the Ramones but I do really like Post-Punk and some Proto-Punk bands.

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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:44
I don't really like the Ramones, but the Misfits and the Clash are fantastic.

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Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 21:03

I like punk; I think cacophony can be awesome, but punk fans and their 'anti-prog' opinions tend to annoy me. I think prog and punk have more in common then meets the eye; obviously not music-wise but in sensibilities. Instead of complaining about prog because they don't like it I think we both should unite against those who make music for purely commercial reasons, or at least let the others live their lives.



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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 05:26
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Kord Kord wrote:

I personally hate it (except Clash)...

I also respect the Clash...and hate punk in general...

Well, lets not forget that real punk is dead...I mean, how exacly are todays "punk" band really punk? Green Day? Good Charlotte? Thouse b*****d sons from Mtv...???? C´moooooooon
I agree...I think now there aren't the same condition of 1977 and there are not the same music businness, so punk now doesn't exist..it can't exist! Green Day and the others are in my opinion po rock band, following a punk attitude, but nothing more...they would like to be punk but they aren't...


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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:16
Sometimes very interesting.
My personal favours are

Sex Pistols (essential punk)
Exploited (I like'em and can't help it)
Misfits (horror punk, very original IMO, and also I'm a big fan of horror)

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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:39
Just a music genre among others. I don't like it that much but appearently millions of other people does.


Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 12:05
There are good punk groups.. BUT most of the punk groups are a bunch of angry kids who recently got their guitars (See Sex Pistols or The Hives on their first record for example) and wants desperatly to make music.

So i like Dead Kennedys (They are pretty good), and some post-punk more sophisticated bands. The only thing that i like in Punk is the  pure emotion (not all of them).


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:08
It's the worst plague to hit the music world.

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:34
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

It's the worst plague to hit the music world.
 
Have you heard of muzak, gangsta rap (not hip-hop), country, and pop divas?


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:41
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

It's the worst plague to hit the music world.
 
Given that your sig includes Mike Patton, John Zorn and Can, I can only assume you're being ironic. If you're not, messrs Zorn, Patton and Czukay would definitely disagree with you.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:45
punk rock... just another genre I guess


not my thing but I guess I can see the allure for the disenfranchised.... the hopeless.... those whose mommies and daddies didn't give them the time of day...


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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:59
I don't mind the clash, I do really like Dead Kennedys tho, and I like some post-hardcore bands like Fugazi and Q and not U.

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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 05:04
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

It's the worst plague to hit the music world.
ahah...You are great!!!


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Posted By: bruin69
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 20:35
Just another genre, which I hated when the press was hyping it up as the thing that killed prog - which I now realise is a much too simple explanation; prog had a lot of other commercial and artistic pressures to worry about. Now, I think some punk and post-punk is okay, but it could never replace prog in my affections.


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 23:18

Just another musical genre ....

BUT THESE GUYS ROCK !!!


Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 15:22
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Just another musical genre ....

BUT THESE GUYS ROCK !!!
I'm sorry, just an error:
"BUT THESE GUYS SUCKS!!!"  (led zeppelin ROCK!)


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Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 16:03

It amazes me that the rock critics seem to embrace punk and all it stands for, while at the same time bashing prog.  But, WE all know which bands actually have the talent and which are just hype.  LONG LIVE PROG



Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 16:22
Originally posted by Kord Kord wrote:

Originally posted by GuilhermeDrigo GuilhermeDrigo wrote:

Punk is disgusting
except by The Clash which i really can't understand why is told to be one of their icons
their music doesn't even sound like punk
I agree with you....they have made punk lyrics but they play rock'n'roll, rockabilly,reggaeand ska....
 
 
 
And I don't have other words!!!


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