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Certif1ed
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:01 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Why do you need these connectics?
My father had a big Akai integrated, i can tell that's very bad, not musical. |
Au contraire - if it was bad and not musical I would stop listening to it and buy something that sounded better.
It feeds a Reel-to-Reel, a MiniDisc recorder, a cassette deck, a video recorder and a computer, so it needs these outputs.
As it is, I've yet to hear anything that sounds as good (to my reasonably musical ears) in the price range. A friend of mine has a comparably sized and specced Rotel which has a less musical sound (to my ears).
So maybe your father was unlucky and got a turkey - but mine is fine
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:44 |
Rotel is miles better than Akai! Your friend's system has a big problem!
Try Nad also, i can't tell you better in the price range.
Nad and Rotel inegrated should features the required connectics (however i'm not sure cause their products are minimalist as all musical devices).
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Posted: April 29 2006 at 05:19 |
listen to Uncle Oliver, he knows his stuff - not much in this world is free, but there is nothing better than free advice!
by the way, you've one component diong too many jobs - junk the "mini disc" recorder (yecccccch!) and the reel to reel etc. and keep it all simple. quality rules over convenience IMHO.
Edited by mystic fred - April 29 2006 at 05:22
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 29 2006 at 06:06 |
Thanks Mystic! i'm pleased to see that you're happy with your new amp!
And yes Mini disc is cr** IMO.
Edited by oliverstoned - April 29 2006 at 06:09
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 17:15 |
mystic fred wrote:
listen to Uncle Oliver, he knows his stuff - not much in this world is free, but there is nothing better than free advice![IMG]alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" align=absMiddle>
by the way, you've one component diong too many jobs - junk the "mini disc" recorder (yecccccch!) and the reel to reel etc. and keep it all simple. quality rules over convenience IMHO. |
I know he knows his stuff.
I also know what my ears tell me - and what I need to to with the bits and pieces I own.
No-one needs a huge amount of electronic junk - a guitar is the best way to hear guitar music - and costs less than Ollie's cables.
However, I bought these toys to fulfil a purpose, and they still do what I bought 'em for. Anything I don't use gets flogged on eBay.
The quality of my Akai is just fine - I must have been lucky and picked a good one. The whole point of getting it was that it was a work-horse to do multiple jobs. The quality of sound it has is extremely high for its class - and, without bragging, I have better ears for music than most.
Thanks for the advice anyway.
Edited by Certif1ed - April 30 2006 at 17:15
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 12:44 |
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Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:08 |
My configuration :
PHILIPS AF 829 MK II turntable ( year of production 1981 )
MARANTZ 1060 console stereo amplifier ( YOP 1977 )
ACOUSTIC RESEARCH AR 16 speakers ( YOP 1977 )
performing faultless !
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'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past
I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast.....
Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.'
Bob Dylan
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Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:30 |
Are the Project Debut turntables any good, some of them are less than half the price of Rega Planar 3? Also, if I bought a turntable, an amplifier and speakers, would I also need a phono preamp?
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 03:56 |
Vompatti wrote:
Are the Project Debut turntables any good, some of them are less than half the price of Rega Planar 3? Also, if I bought a turntable, an amplifier and speakers, would I also need a phono preamp? |
Having not had the chance to audition Project Debut i couldn't comment on their performance but i have heard they are very good for the price. I have a Rega Planar 3 with an RB250 tonearm. the budget project models are based on the rega design. Check out some reviews, or if you are lucky and have a good hifi store near you that will demo both makes, even better!
Whether you would need a phono preamp would depend on which model amp you decide on, some have a built-in phono preamp and some don't, though if you need one they can be bought for about £60. In hifi, like anything else, you get what you pay for, but if you are careful you might find a bargain!
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 09:36 |
^Thanks, I guess I'll try before I buy, but if there aren't any huge
differencies between Project and Rega, the cheapest model is probably
good enough for me.
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 07:36 |
Certif1ed wrote:
mystic fred wrote:
listen to Uncle Oliver, he knows his stuff - not much in this world is free, but there is nothing better than free advice![IMG]alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" align=absMiddle>
by the way, you've one component diong too many jobs - junk the "mini disc" recorder (yecccccch!) and the reel to reel etc. and keep it all simple. quality rules over convenience IMHO. |
I know he knows his stuff.
I also know what my ears tell me - and what I need to to with the bits and pieces I own.
No-one needs a huge amount of electronic junk - a guitar is the best way to hear guitar music - and costs less than Ollie's cables.
However, I bought these toys to fulfil a purpose, and they still do what I bought 'em for. Anything I don't use gets flogged on eBay.
The quality of my Akai is just fine - I must have been lucky and picked a good one. The whole point of getting it was that it was a work-horse to do multiple jobs. The quality of sound it has is extremely high for its class - and, without bragging, I have better ears for music than most.
Thanks for the advice anyway.
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Very good Certified, stick to your guns...Audio is for the most part subjective, so the single most important thing is being happy with what you hear, not what someone else tells you they hear. After all, you're the one listening to your system long-term, not them...Reviewers, audiophiles & other sources can be helpful in making listeners aware of other options available, alternate configurations you may not have thought of, possible tweaking of gear, publishing of objective measurement results, etc but they can't listen for you with your ears...
And convenience & features definitely play a part in selecting audio components. I have a friend (an all-tube audiophile) who tried to convince me once that it was worth him disconnecting/reconnecting certain components from his tube preamp each time he wanted to listen to different sources because that particular preamp was the best, and he could hear the difference with any other component in the chain (even though he later admitted that the benefits he heard were "minor"). So he was perfectly happy to go through that inconvenience & live with the limited inputs, all for the sake of his perceived slightly superior sound. Most people aren't willing to put up with that, even if someone else could "prove" to them that the sound quality was superior...
From a design perspective, building (and owning) the "ultimate" discreet components is relatively easy. All it takes is money (OK, sometimes not so easy!)...What's much more difficult is to build components that walk that tightrope between performance, functionality & price, and to assemble a system of such components that work well together & meet your specific user needs...I find this ultimately more satisfying than just reading the reviews, determining "the best", then plunking down my thousands & hauling that gear home...
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wolf0621
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 17:32 |
Getting back to the origianl thread for a sec, check this out:
and at:
A new gizmo that reads vinyl using lasers, and expensive enough to appeal to any true audiophile!
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mystic fred
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 04:20 |
Yes i've heard about these and seen them for sale on ebay, i'd love to audition one for a few days.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:13 |
Instead of the Project Debut that I considered I ended up buying Goldring GR 1.2 with NAD PP2 preamp. So far I think it was a very good buy.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:40 |
Unfortunatly the Creek preamp for the same price works better.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:48 |
^Which one? If you mean Creek OBH 18, the price is twice as much as the NAD.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:52 |
How much did you paid the Nad?
I know that there's a Creek around 100/120€.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:54 |
The NAD was 89€. There weren't any Creek phono preamps at the shop where I bought it.
Edited by Vompatti - June 13 2006 at 14:55
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Minkia
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 17:56 |
Is Judy Collins prog...?
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RELIGION IS HATE, RELIGION IS FEAR, RELIGION IS WAR,RELIGION IS RAPE, RELIGION'S OBSCENE,RELIGION'S A WHORE
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Aaron
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Posted: June 14 2006 at 12:54 |
what do you dorks think about this, i've been thinking of picking it up, i have a turntable, but would like to convert my stuff to mp3 and without hassle
Aaron
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