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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 13:47
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

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My only 1 star review:
 
Notice that you did mispell particularly...
 
The Eve of Innocence is not a perticularly remarkable album. Sinister Street hasn't emerged from the 80s blazing new trails with an immediatly effective and emotive style. To the contrary, they've basically stuck with the same sound that so many Neo Progressive bands have worn to death. For a relative reference, the musical style on The Eve of Innocence is quite similar to Pendragon's The Jewel and the lesser-known (and not entirely without reason) Solitary Witness by Landmarq.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 13:51
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

My only 1 star review:
 
Notice that you did mispell particularly...
 
The Eve of Innocence is not a perticularly remarkable album. Sinister Street hasn't emerged from the 80s blazing new trails with an immediatly effective and emotive style. To the contrary, they've basically stuck with the same sound that so many Neo Progressive bands have worn to death. For a relative reference, the musical style on The Eve of Innocence is quite similar to Pendragon's The Jewel and the lesser-known (and not entirely without reason) Solitary Witness by Landmarq.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 13:52
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

My only 1 star review:
 
Notice that you did mispell particularly...
 
The Eve of Innocence is not a perticularly remarkable album. Sinister Street hasn't emerged from the 80s blazing new trails with an immediatly effective and emotive style. To the contrary, they've basically stuck with the same sound that so many Neo Progressive bands have worn to death. For a relative reference, the musical style on The Eve of Innocence is quite similar to Pendragon's The Jewel and the lesser-known (and not entirely without reason) Solitary Witness by Landmarq.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 13:54
Originally posted by Forgotten Son Forgotten Son wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

My only 1 star review:
 


Yeah, that album is rather dull. I would probably given it 2/2.5 stars, though. Apparently their latest album is much better.
 
So I've heard. I want to get it, but The Eve of Innocence was only $1.50 plus shipping on Amazon, so why not. Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 14:41
I find the Snow Goose to be boring and uninspired. Mirage was so much better:(

And no, it's not the lack of vocals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 15:01
I insist... It's just a matter of taste...
... E N E L B U N K E R...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 15:30
Originally posted by progadicto progadicto wrote:

I insist... It's just a matter of taste...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 15:54
There are some bands I dont like...but I cant find any crappy one...not in prog!Big smileBig smileBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:29
You lucky lot! Seems like you can barely find a bad prog band between you. From the point of view that all prog is better than the black-influenced rubbish in the charts, then I agree - I'd much rather listen to the worst prog bands than popularist garbage. I presume we are omitting bands that started well and became poor parodies of themselves ie Genesis, Eloy, "Camera Camera" period Renaissance etc etc?
But I have come across some truly dire prog bands.
Finneus Gauge - musicianship fine but what a cacophony - did they realise that you can actually string together notes to form something called a tune?
Edith (Italy) - Musicianship poor, song-writing poor and vocals - forget it.
In fact, now I'm struggling - been through my collection and nothing much more stands out as being truly terrible. One caveat being that I did return a few that I didn't like after hearing them.
 
Right that does prove it - prog really is the tops!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:41
Originally posted by Glueman Glueman wrote:

the black-influenced rubbish

You know, that looks more than a little racist.

Just in case you didn't mean it to - and I certainly hope you didn't - I thought you'd like to know what it looks like.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:48
ShockedGlueman.....I wonder how many Prog bands are influenced by Miles Davis or Jimi Hendrix?






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:49
It shouldn't look racist unless one is hyper sensitive to the subject. I'm not in the remotest bit racist - the fact remains that I hate all black music - that's not a racist thing at all, it's not a concious thing - simply hate it all - hip-hop, soul, rap, house, reggae - you name it - it's all utterly dire. Just one of those things I'm afraid. If anyone thinks that is a prejudice - they are completely bonkers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:51
It's just a poorly worded way of saying rap muzak. I catually liked 80s old school rap, but that was a time when rap either had a politcal agenda or was all about partying on the beach. Rap now is frivilous nonsense with repetitive themes that don't mean sh*t. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:51

The one exception is Jimi - he sits on top of the tree - and yes you can't deny his blues background. I'm not talking about derivative music but the over chart-based drivel.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:52
That should have read "overt" not "over.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:52
Originally posted by Glueman Glueman wrote:

It shouldn't look racist unless one is hyper sensitive to the subject. I'm not in the remotest bit racist - the fact remains that I hate all black music - that's not a racist thing at all, it's not a concious thing - simply hate it all - hip-hop, soul, rap, house, reggae - you name it - it's all utterly dire. Just one of those things I'm afraid. If anyone thinks that is a prejudice - they are completely bonkers!

If that's your considered reponse then I pity you.
However lets not let this thread dissolve into ithe mire I predicted at its outset...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:53
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Originally posted by Glueman Glueman wrote:

the black-influenced rubbish

You know, that looks more than a little racist.

Just in case you didn't mean it to - and I certainly hope you didn't - I thought you'd like to know what it looks like.


I dont see it that way, he's just pointing out that a) a lot of mainstream music has at least a small touch of "urban" style to it, usually a lot more than just a touch and b) a lot of proggers find it absolutely dire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:56
You pity me? What on earth for? I'm not going to get get into an argument over this.  I won't criticise other people on their taste in music - I wouldn't be so arrogant. Is it the fact that I dislike "black" music? Why shouldn't I dislike it? Do I have to keep quiet about what I dislike because someone might be offended?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:57
I can honestly say that I also don't like the majority of what might be called "black" music. Just don't like it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2006 at 17:04
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

I believe Sturgeon's Law applies to Prog just as well as any other art genre: 90% of everything is crud.


Sure, but then again most people only know a small part of all the albums that exist.

Think about it: 10% of all the albums in the archives would be more than 1,000 albums. And I'm pretty sure that there are still many albums missing in the db.


Edited by MikeEnRegalia - May 28 2006 at 17:06
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