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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:31
I don't "count melody notes", I rather try to analyze the rhythm:

In Money the bass drum and snare drum clearly show that the 7/4 rhythm is 4/4 + 4/4-1/4. The last crotchet of the second beat is simply left out.

In The Sound of Muzak the 7/8 is far more complex ... 3+3+3+3+2/8 feels most suitable for me (that's the verse, the chorus is simply 3+3+2/8) - so it's really 14/8.

But I'd still like to hear an example where it makes sense to count 3+3+1/8 ... I just can't think of any!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 12:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2006 at 17:28
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I don't "count melody notes", I rather try to analyze the rhythm:

In Money the bass drum and snare drum clearly show that the 7/4 rhythm is 4/4 + 4/4-1/4. The last crotchet of the second beat is simply left out.

In The Sound of Muzak the 7/8 is far more complex ... 3+3+3+3+2/8 feels most suitable for me (that's the verse, the chorus is simply 3+3+2/8) - so it's really 14/8.

But I'd still like to hear an example where it makes sense to count 3+3+1/8 ... I just can't think of any!
 
The Sound of Muzak is essentially 7/4. in the verse. The drums just play a somewhat off beat rhythm.
 
The only one of the top of my head to answer your question at the end there is a short excerpt from Coheed and Cambria's "The Crowing." I'll look for the times later, but they are playing 6/8 to 7/8 a few times and they do the 7/8 like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2006 at 17:42
^ I agree that it makes sense to count Sound of Muzak as 7/4, considering the bass drum / snare rhythm - the hihat beats also suggest crotchets.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2006 at 19:36

The part I mentioned in "The Crowing" is at about 3:13. http://www.purevolume.com/coheedandcambria has the mp3 available. I think it's what you're looking for.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 02:41
i've listened to a modern prog metal song that was in like 26/32... impossible to count
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 13:22
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

i've listened to a modern prog metal song that was in like 26/32... impossible to count
 
And what song would that be?


Edited by Moatilliatta - May 18 2006 at 13:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 13:54
^ any chance that it might "just" be 13/16?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 13:58
maybe... i still couldn't count... not sure of the time signature...
might alo have been 14/16 or 15/16... perhaps something even wierder like 24/32...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 14:14
24/32 = 12/16 = 6/8 = 3/4 (unless there's odd grouping, like 13+11/32 or 7+5/16)
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