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glass house 
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Joined: June 16 2005
Location: Netherlands
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 Posted: May 16 2006 at 06:58 |
Read some years ago in an article that if Japan bought my country every inhabitant got 0.5 million Euro's. SELL the place !!!!   .
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daz2112
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Location: England
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Points: 4483
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Posted: May 17 2006 at 15:39 |
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In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole
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AtLossForWords
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 11 2005
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Points: 6699
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 16:04 |
I'm an American, and no. I have no sense of national pride for my country. I'd much rather be Swedish, Finnish, or Canadian.
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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MustShaveBeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 20 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 366
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 16:18 |
 stonebeard wrote:
I see no reason for you not to be proud. Since when has Canada (or Quebec for that matter) started a war and lied to its people about it?
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There's a difference between being proud of the current government and being proud of the country. Yes, the Administration started the war, but America is much bigger than that.
Edited by MustShaveBeard - May 18 2006 at 16:19
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator
Errors & Omissions Team
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: Russia
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Points: 7852
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 19:31 |
aapatsos wrote:
... and I have to say I'm very proud to be Greek,
mainly because of our history |
Not only history, I think people in Greece are wonderful. They are so friendly and natural, in the same time they have deep self respect - great combination. Nice people, with all my love to my compatriots and other nations, I'm always waiting for the day I'll be in Greece again.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Man With Hat
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
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Points: 166178
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 19:49 |
I do have some. I mean i live in the most powerful nation in the world. If only we used the power correctly. But i can't do much about that...at least at this point. Even if i say bad stuff about America, its usually not meant to be aimed at the US itself, but the people in charge/making the decisions, being i disagree with some to alot of the policys/laws/legal actions/etc of the US. But i do feel lucky to be an American...even though i never show it.
So being there is no middle ground answer i guess i will answer yes.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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DarioIndjic
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 15 2005
Location: Universe
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Points: 600
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 19:58 |
The world would be a better place if countries and nations wouldnt exist.After all we are all humans.Its normal to have national pride,but its not normal to jugde people based on their ethnic appartenance,every individual is different,and i judge people as individuals.For example,i could enjoy more to be in companion with someone having same tastes in music like me and coming from other part of the world than with my neighboor.
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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DarioIndjic
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 20:22 |
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And never people should be proud about the fighting, the wars ,the ocupations of their countries and the economic power,but for the people who gave something good to the country ,like artists,scientists ,etc,.
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: October 21 2005
Location: Terra Brasilis
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Points: 12288
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 21:38 |
NotAProghead wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
... and I have to say I'm very proud to be Greek,
mainly because of our history |
Not only history, I think people in Greece are wonderful. They are so friendly and natural, in the same time they have deep self respect - great combination. Nice people, with all my love to my compatriots and other nations, I'm always waiting for the day I'll be in Greece again. |
I once said to aapatsos what a teacher told me years ago: "in the end or in the beginning, we're all Greeks." (she was talking about the "Western" Civilization). 
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Guigo
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Points: 20240
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 06:38 |
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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avestin
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 06:52 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fiere de la Belgique?... 
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cucacola54
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Joined: July 11 2005
Location: Mexico
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Points: 1729
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 11:08 |
memowakeman wrote:
I love my country, i like the roots of the history, i like our customs and traditions, we have beautiful zones when we can stay and enjoy the landscape, we have a very special and delicious kind of food, music.. maybe not the best, but is ok...
Like any country Mexico has awful things... insecurity, stress ,smog, bad poiticians, etc..
at least in Mexico City (where i live) , we have a mix of all that good and bad things... my city is not the best and most beautiful of my country, is so crowded and sometimes looks horrible, but one of the best poinst is our culture.
Anyway, im proud to be Mexican, because we are special and unique people! |
Couldnt said it better! but i live in a City named Queretaro in the middle part of Mexico (Just above Mexico City)
Queretaro is a beautiful place, lot of culture and history, is one of the few places with 2 human patrimony awards ("Queretaro", and "Las Misiones de Queretaro")
I love to live here, beautiful place, and good people, if your considering visiting Mexico, i really recommend to visit Queretaro, you will not regreat it
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Zepology101
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Joined: March 21 2006
Location: Antarctica
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Points: 340
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:14 |
stonebeard wrote:
I see no reason for you not to be proud. Since when has Canada (or Quebec for that matter) started a war and lied to its people about it?
In any case, I don't think there should be nations at all, but rather one unified world. It's laughable, I know, but I feel more of a duty to protect and serve the world than to protect and serve the United States in specific. That notion seems incredibly selfish and isolationist. That's also why the concept of treason baffles me. If my country is doing something I consider wrong, and I join the the other side, one I consider doing the right thing, what gives my country the right to say I'm committing treason. In a globalist point of view, there is no such thing as treason I believe, unless some aliens start attacking Earth and I join them. |
hear hear man!
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Dirk
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 1043
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:53 |
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No!. Holland must be one of the most hypocritical countries in the world. We are plagued here by shifty governments who have no direction at all. For instance our neighbours and friends Germany, Belgium and France made a stand when Bush and his clan planned to attack Iraq. Not the Netherlands, Bush is the most powerful man so he has to be followed doesn't care if he lies, our governments are used to that. In politics here telling the truth is not done. Very typical.
Current government is particularly bad but it has always been something of a shambles. At least it's democratic.
We must all count our blessings though and as there is no poverty here i think we are all very lucky that we were born here.
And fortunately there are also some good things going on here. Chess and Bridge scene are very lively here and we have some really good players in both sports.
As for music since i joined PA i have come to recognize that Holland has quite a few good musicians in the past as well as in the present. Also the concert and festival climate here is very good.
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Points: 20240
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:28 |
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pays
Edited by Sean Trane - May 23 2006 at 03:56
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Bern
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: September 22 2005
Location: Québec
Status: Offline
Points: 11746
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:53 |
Sean Trane wrote:
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pys |
Hé! Arrêtez de parler en français sur le forum. Les gens ne vont rien comprendre et vont penser qu'on fait une conspiration contre eux
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Syzygy
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Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 7003
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:51 |
Bern wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pys |
Hé! Arrêtez de parler en français sur le forum. Les gens ne vont rien comprendre et vont penser qu'on fait une conspiration contre eux
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Pourquoi croyez-vous que les gens ici ne comprendent rien sauf que ce qu'est ecrit en Anglais? Il y a quelques uns ici qui peuvent comprendre des langues etrangeres (meme s'Ils trompent beacoup en ecrivant Francais ) et si les Francais font conspiration ils la sauront!
Edited by Syzygy - May 21 2006 at 16:51
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Bern
Forum Senior Member
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Joined: September 22 2005
Location: Québec
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Points: 11746
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:53 |
^ Oh non! Nous avons été découverts. Nous sommes piègés 
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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DarioIndjic
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 15 2005
Location: Universe
Status: Offline
Points: 600
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 00:23 |
Salut à tous,je parles francais aussi bien que ma langue maternelle
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Mikerinos
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Planet Gong
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Points: 8890
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 00:32 |
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Yes. America is nowhere close to being perfect, and I'm sure there are better places in the world, but I'm happy to live here because it could be much, much worse as well.
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