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Velvetclown ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 8548 |
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NO NO I´m still a Dirty Old Man
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Velvetclown ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 8548 |
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Guess I should start ANOTHER useless thread
![]() On the other hand......... ![]() Edited by Velvetclown - May 10 2006 at 10:25 |
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man@arms ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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Velvetclown ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 8548 |
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Well........It takes some doing....but we are very flexible in here
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
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Quite a relevant link
Vatican >> priest >> no sex >> premature ejaculation under their robes and thinking about their fictional gods
![]() Elementary my Dear Watson
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Da Vinci code = BOGUS!
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Well, it is a load of old w&nk! ![]() |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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We have an MP who is a member of Opus Dei. I think it's Ruth Kelly (perhaps someone can confirm) Whatever her name is she's just been put in charge of equality, tolerance and all things nice, which is ironic as Opus Dei loathe homosexuals, and Kelly has abstained from numerous commons votes on issues to improve equality for gays and lesbiens. Nice choice of minister Tony! ![]() Scientology? Is that anything to do with Christianity. I dont know much about it, but I thought it's founder L.Ron Hubbard only registered it as a religion to elude the tax man at the time?? |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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man@arms ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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man@arms ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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It should be banned. Not because of the church, but just because it was a terrible book that should be forgotten forever.
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Royalist ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2006 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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The church is always making mountains out of a molehill. Da Vinci code is a fictional story. There are many movies about Russian mafia attempting to rule the world and U.S. government hiding UFO spaceships. Nobody starts crusades against it. Is it wrong to say that a man had a child? When a bishop speaks about evil satanists it is OK, when a writer writes about evil Opus Dei it is wrong?
Myth against myth. Religions teach obout heavens and hells, gods and demons just like it's 100% sure. No trace of proof. But when you don't wear a black/white long dress and a funny cap you're not allowed to tell your legends. One book is good, another book is bad. Just like kids arguing about who built the best sand castle. ![]() |
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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I have read the disclaimer that Opus Dei is demanding to be added at the beginning of the film and it GIVES away the complete clue of the story! At least I know it is the clue, because I have read the book couple of months ago. Nevertheless, I'm still going to see this film in cinema very soon |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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I've always been a sucker for thrillers and detective stories with a religious theme,even if it is all a load of old guff. Must be the Catholic brainwashing I received as a child......
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Arsillus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7374 |
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The church should butt out. I don't see the big deal with some dude's book about his ideas of Jesus. It's just the latest thing for the church to condemn. Just out of curiosity, do they endorse/like anything, because all I hear is the latest condemnation. Maybe they're making some noise to be heard because no one would listen to them otherwise.
But for the record, I enjoyed the book and will be enjoying the movie shortly.
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Erm, they're not his thoughts on Jesus though are they?
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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Velvy's right for once
anyway the book is overrated and Tom Hanks? that just killed it |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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Yes. It doesn't make very interesting news, though... |
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maani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Founding Moderator Joined: January 30 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2632 |
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Setting aside any notion of whether religion is fiction (VC - nice to see the leopard hasn't changed his spots! LOL), or even whether The Da Vinci Code is fiction or what is being called "faction," the real question, as posed at the beginning, is: what is/should be the "Christian" reaction to the book.
As the resident minister (LOL), it might surprise you to find that I agree with the majority: tempest in a teapot. Indeed, I will go further and state that any "Christian" who gets "bent out of shape" every time an alternative/controversial view of any aspect of Christianity comes along - The Da Vinci Code, The Last Temptation of Christ, The Life of Brian, Dogma, Mary, etc. - shows a weakness of faith. (Indeed, one could argue that such a reaction lacks humility, forgiveness and patience - three of the most important tenets of Jesus' ministry.) Those with strong faith can "take a joke," or simply "accept," and not get their back up in such cases.
That said, there are two caveats. First, there is a difference between being satiric or irreverent and being insulting and profane. As the site rules suggest, "profanity" - the conscious, deliberate, spiteful or malicious denigration of another person's faith or strongest-held belief system - is inappropriate and wrong; there is no excuse for it, and any reaction it does provoke is understandable.
Second, the real "problem" with "faction" like The Da Vinci Code is that it sets up a sort of "historical revisionism" that can be dangerous for those with little knowledge. As we all know, perception can be more powerful than reality, and when something is as pervasively popular as The Da Vinci Code, the danger of such "perception"' is increased. Just as 17% of the American public still believes that there was a direct link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda (despite that claim having been totally and thoroughly debunked even in the most right-wing publications) simply as a result of the constant repetition and reiteration of that claim (despite any solid evidence to support it), popular books/films like The Da Vinci Code are likely to leave the impression/perception that many of the fictional elements are fact. [As an aside, the spiritual "danger" of books like The Da Vinci Code to those who are "new" to the faith are even greater. However, that is a separate subject.]
This does not mean that debates about the history of Christianity are bad: indeed, such debates tend to strengthen the "foundational" truths (and yes, there are foundational truths) of the orthodox "Judeo-Christian construct," even if some of what we "know" about that history is incorrect. However, the replacing of those foundational truths and/or widely-accepted scholarly beliefs/truths with "faction" that has little or no evidentiary surpport is not a good thing.
Peace. Edited by maani - May 11 2006 at 00:25 |
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Norbert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 20 2005 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 2506 |
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^^ Maani said it all!
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