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Points: 1864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2006 at 09:34
Right, tempo is independent of time signature. The difference between 3/4 and 6/8 is the subdivision of the beat.

example:
3/4

ONE-and-Two-and-Three-and

6/8
ONE-two-three-FOUR-five-six


Does that help?
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Points: 1823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2006 at 09:55
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Right, tempo is independent of time signature. The difference between 3/4 and 6/8 is the subdivision of the beat.

example:
3/4

ONE-and-Two-and-Three-and

6/8
ONE-two-three-FOUR-five-six


Does that help?
 
Thanks. When I say those out loud, it makes sense.
 
Is it that 3/4 has only one emphasized beat in the bar whilst 6/8 has two? Is anything played during the ANDs?


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Points: 1864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:51
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Thanks. When I say those out loud, it makes sense.
 
Is it that 3/4 has only one emphasized beat in the bar whilst 6/8 has two?



Most of the time, yes. A very common 3/4 "feel" is the waltz.

Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:



Is anything played during the ANDs?


It depends on the music.. the "AND"s are just subdivisions of the beat (in the 3/4 example, they're eighth notes), you certainly can play during them. It's less about what's being played, and more about where the emphasis of the beat goes.

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Hello Mr Greece. There is more info (read: opinions) on this matter in the Music and Musicians exchange forum. So once ya have a good handle on it read through the 'Time signatures' thread to get confused again Smile 


Edit: I meant to tell ya since you asked about other timmings in use about Rushs well known use of 12/8. They also use 7/8 9/8.  To me time signatures are acedemic. Its only a way to write music on paper to communicate musical ideas without sound. In other regards they are near meaningless (imho of course)



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Points: 113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2006 at 23:04
I know a few modern composers that don't even use time signatures.
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^ I know a few modern composers that don't even play music.Wink
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Points: 613 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2006 at 05:27
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

The difference between 6/8 and 3/4 is that in 6/8 you don't have the typical waltz rhythm with 3 quarter notes - instead you have a rhythm which cannot be properly expressed with quarter notes. 
 
As far as I can work out, 6/8 is like 3/4 but with twice as many notes. Is it a rythym with twice the speed?
 
 6/8 is compound time, meaning there are 2 beats of 3 quavers
 3/4 is simple time, meaning there are 3 beats of 1 crotchet
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