Nightwish

^ I didn't mention these three bands just because I think the vocals are better. They also seem much more ambitioned to me - all the musicians - and they are not "selling out" like Nightwish do. A few years ago there was this huge gothic hype, with Buffy - The Vampire Slayer being very successful on the TV screen and several other fantasy series, and teenies getting interested in monsters, medieval settings, witches etc.. Bands like Evanescence and Within Temptation were hugely successful because of that (Evanescence even made a video with teenagers in the audience of a staged live concert mutating into zombies).

walrus333 wrote: They seem awesome when you first hear them. However eventually you will realize they are only slightly better than average. This has been the case with everyone I have met who listens to them.

Forgotten son wrote: Dirk wrote: 100 % agreed , i once went to a concert of them, now that was a mistake .Couldn't stand the mannerisms of Tarja Turunen who was continually shouting "come on" at the audience. i was back at the bar real soon that evening. Perhaps you should try listening to the CDs, if you didn't like the mannerisms of the front-woman. I'm not saying that you will like them, but I'm getting an overall impression that a lot of people in this thread aren't giving Nightwish enough time before making some pretty harsh judgements.

I admit i have never listened to a CD of them so i was careful not to make a judgement about the quality of their music, i would only do so after several listens. Thing is i don't like Gothic metal much so it's not likely that i would enjoy listening to their CD's even after prolonged listening.

The way Tarja went about it all was just so irritating that i couldn't resist the temptation to post about it now that this thread is here, sorry.

Main reason to go to the concert was that After Forever played before Nightwish. Now i know they were also a gothic metal band at that time (still with Mark Jansen in the lineup). They were so good at that time though that i enjoyed their concerts even if i not all their songs were to my taste.

Unfortunelately they played for half an hour only. Should have been the other way round really.

 

^ I partially agree with your statement, Antennas. However, for me they are more "Gothic" now than "Power". Despite many people being irritated by Tarja's vocals, it was the uniqueness of her vocals that gave Nightwish the edge over many similar bands. I put aside any of Tarja's perceived "idiosyncrasies" and concentrate on her vocals which are not equaled by any other metal lead female vocalist - how many of them have been operatically trained? It is all a matter of taste. You either like Nightwish or you don't. I like their music. However, I think Nightwish has lost it's specialness and can only become yet another power/goth metal band that will blend in among the many that already exist.

Antennas wrote: Well, it sort of puzzles me why Nightwish is always put forward as a 'Gothic Metal' band. They're not. It's in fact power metal with a female singer, something quite different - and not prog at all!

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - May 07 2006 at 05:56

I also have the thought that their music is kind of repetitive from album to album. Once was their best though, but overal I do not consider this to be an excellent band, more like average..

Jimbo wrote: Rocktopus wrote: Sounds like music that could do very well in the Eurovision Song Contest to me. Maybe even win!  Ehheh, they actually once participated in the competition here in Finland, but they didn't make it to the actual Eurovision contest.

They did? Ha-ha. I'm impressed by myself. Sorry to fans of the band. This band is certainly not my cup of tea, and I won't post any more stupid remarks here. 

Fine band, and very original for their time - they pioneered that particular style of symphonic power metal with progressive edges and operatic female vocals when they released their first album in 1997, and numerous other bands have refined the formula since. However, from their third album onwards Nightwish certainly began to repeat themselves. For those who like the band but wish they were more progressive, try the Taiwanese outfit Seraphim - so similar to early and mid-period Nightwish that it almost borders on plagiarism, but with much longer, more intense and more complex songs.

mmm... Rapsody, Nightwish, etc... the way I see it, they are much more dedicated to explore that idea of being vampire angels that suffer ans tend to scream about it. Off course, I'm one of those that think Tool isn't prog also. Don't get me wrong, I like TOOL, but the idea I have for prog has more to do with GYBE. Meanin, less involved with the repetition of a certain pose, and more into pure music experimentation, with poetry at the level of an open meaning, instead of... ¿you know what? forget all this. It only works for me anyway...

Meddler wrote: I can't get past the vocals, musically theyre great.