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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:06 |
jojim wrote:
Soooooooo, we didn't find out what makes people listen to prog. IF not the lack of girls, feelings, fear of the future. What is it then?Sometimes I suppose that it was the awful relationship to my parents (esp. father). Other time I think it is a kind of yearning to be in an other place - far away. Like a sailor discovering foreign countries and islands. And sometimes I think that I'm a pretty nervous person to keep track of most of the prog songs. If I'm seriousl: most of them sounds very harsh and chaotic, not soft, very energetic, very upsetting. Most people don't even bear it just to listen to it. They cannot stand it!!! - I can.So - what is the secret?Thanks for the overall interesting discussion anyway. Perhaps someone has a clue - and will let us having a short insight.
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Prog certainly took me somewhere else. To, what I percieved to be a better place than the world around me. I had a difficult teenage life; my father died and school stressed me out. Music, especially prog hauled me through my teens like a good dependable friend. By the time I reached my twenties, and I settled down a bit, I actually drifted away from prog for a while; almost as if I didn't need the escapism. But, of course I went back to it purely through realising that it was emotionally and technically superior music to everything else I had been listening to in my 'prog free' days.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Valarius
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Joined: January 08 2005
Location: Germany
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:14 |
I'm sorry to hear about your childhood man. But it's good to see that you went back to prog.
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Valarius
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:15 |
My first steps to prog probably started with Metallica. So I believe the secret to prog is Metallica.
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JayDee
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:32 |
Well, I do have a girlfriend, I have few but genuine friends, i dont like big crowds, I hate partying, I listen to music peferably with a dim light,... and thats about it, I think....
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JayDee
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:34 |
Valarius wrote:
My first steps to prog probably started with Metallica. So I believe the secret to prog is Metallica.  |
My prog interest started with Uriah Heep, Rainbow, Styx etc. And yes, Metallica, Megadeth and Dream Theater played a big part.
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heyitsthatguy
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Joined: April 17 2006
Location: Washington Hgts
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 20:19 |
Yeah, prog for me started with Metallicas ...And Justice for all *wtf its not letting me use commas ANYWAYS* and actually Co&Cas In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. And yes, Dream Theater made me aware of the genre, and theyre still my top band, along w *wtf no backslashes either* Pink Floyd, Rush, Porcupine Tree, Fates Warning, Symphony X, and TMV. Other than the girl situation *pardon the overcomplaining im kinda going through a really tough period* Im pretty social though, but I do enjoy being alone w/ music *THERE'S the backslash...and apostrophe's! and comma,s !*
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The Wizard
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 18 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 21:52 |
sleeper wrote:
I dont know, do all progers hate most of the modern world? |
I know I do. I don't listen to the same music, read the same books, wear the same clothes, or watch the same TV, short of Simpsons and Family Guy.
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cuncuna
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Joined: March 29 2005
Location: Chile
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Points: 4318
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 22:13 |
Just the pleasure that comes from listening to something that is very much like a puzzle, or a good book, I guess. I'm very much into Art, and I think prog is just a good way to force music into that direction. Lack of girls... no, not for me at least.
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ĦBeware of the Bee!
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Norbert
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Joined: October 20 2005
Location: Hungary
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 02:53 |
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progrockgirl
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Joined: January 21 2006
Location: United States
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Points: 27
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 03:42 |
If there is really a prog type, then I suppose that I fit the mold. I'm
basically introverted and love to absorb myself in my interests, which
are not mainstream. I love to sit and listen to my prog for hours, and
the time passes so quickly. I've had a concurrent interest in reggae,
but it lacks the compelling complexity and technical brilliance of
prog. And yes, I despise modern pop culture, at least here in
America.
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oracus
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Joined: December 12 2005
Location: Greece
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:16 |
I dont think that i am that 'prog type', because always making joke, going out, talk with other and stuff. BUT here in town tha i study i feel like a freak. Everybody think of me like" ah, that guy who listens weird music?'. I hate that, i dont know people who love prog, or even love their music. I just lay down in the night and enjoy prog...That's life :)
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oracus
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Location: Greece
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:20 |
The Wizard wrote:
sleeper wrote:
I dont know, do all progers hate most of the modern world? |
I know I do. I don't listen to the same music, read the same books, wear the same clothes, or watch the same TV, short of Simpsons and Family Guy. |
Sorry for the spam but i didn see your replay man. I totally agree with you. Simpsons, Davinci Code, Skateboard clothing, 'Friends' series etc..
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walrus333
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Joined: October 29 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:47 |
Yeah the guy whos really into music, has a almost noexistant sociallife is its not music realted, none of the (few) friends he has are female. Thats me, im starting to get better about being social and stuff, just not with mainstream society i am seeking out other "weird" people like myself to hang out with weather their weirdness stems form prog or not 
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If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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Barla
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Joined: April 13 2006
Location: Argentina
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Posted: May 06 2006 at 12:45 |
Well, I think I'm not a prog type ... I've a lot of friends (male and female) and usually go out with them. Actually I don't have a girlfriend. What happens with me is that I'm not friend of "popular" people in school ...
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Jimbo
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Joined: February 28 2005
Location: Helsinki
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Posted: May 06 2006 at 18:35 |
I'm probably not the prog "type", if such a thing exists.
I played football (soccer) for nine years, and have always loved
sports. I don't have that many friends, just five very close ones. I
don't like crowds, I'll admit that, and you wouldn't get me into a
"disco" for any money, but that certainly doesn't mean I don't know how
to have fun when the feeling strikes me.
I look perfectly normal (I think  ),
and I get along with most people pretty easily, but I'm not too good at
"small talk", because to me it sounds like a complete waste of time. I
like to discuss real topics. I don't talk about prog much (outside this
place), mainly because no-one's interested.  I'm not shy, but not too "aggressive" either.
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I|I|I|I|I
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 10 2005
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Points: 200
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Posted: May 06 2006 at 22:55 |
I wouldn't necessarily classify myself as a prog-type, but as a music
nerd in general (some would probably call me a loser, but we'll get to
the refuting evidence later  )
I listen to everything (not just prog) but prog is probably my favorite
genre. I love to sing (usually classical, but some jazz/theater pieces)
and I love writing music, most of which is "proggy". I play a lot of
jazz on the clarinet, too, and I also play piano on which I do
jazz/classical/avant-garde kind of improvisation. As for listening, I'm
seriously all over the place... jazz, classical, hip-hop, world, rock,
ambient, electronica, metal, and of course, prog.
Most people who are like this have pretty much never seen a girl in
their life. Well, somehow I got lucky - I'm relatively decent-looking
and well-spoken, and I can hold my own in social situations without
question. I've had a few girlfriends, and I do my share of drugs upon
occasion. I also involve myself in things outside of music, like
theater and just chilling out, etc. I also do relatively well in school.
So there ya have me, kind of a music nerd with social capabilities and stuff. Certainly not the general prog-stereotype.
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Go and listen to my music.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31725
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Serguilloche
Forum Groupie
Joined: April 16 2006
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Points: 84
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Posted: May 07 2006 at 06:03 |
I would say 'No, I'm not the prog type' from what you're describing. I
didn't really think there was a 'type' for ages, until I settled into
my new job.
People couldn't believe that I was a scifi/fantasy reading, prog and
metal loving person. They call me the 'posh, arrogant bloke with the
long hair'. What the hell else did they expect me to listen to? Prog
can be a bit nerdy, but at the same time it's also a sort of musical
arrogance.
I have no problems with women, they like a bit of mystery I suppose,
and most blokes are just open books, while I keep my secrets to
myself. I also have no problems approaching a woman I fancy. IMO this
is the big issue to a lot of people - women generally only go out with
men who ask them out. Learning to handle rejection is a major life
skill - I know people with 1st class degrees with crappy jobs, because
they're too scared to put themselves out there in case they don't the
first job they go for. Same with women, if one rejects, never mind,
play the numbers game and learn from experience. Remember all those
beautiful, intelligent women hanging out with stupid, unsuitable men?
It's because those blokes are too stupid to feel rejected so they'll
ask anyone out, and the beautiful woman is tired of waiting for the
intelligent rich guy to ask her because he's too nervous, she ends up
going out with the moron.
To paraphrase Anthony Robbins - 'Imagine all the things you could do if you weren't scared'
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