Are you a prog type?
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Topic: Are you a prog type?
Posted By: jojim
Subject: Are you a prog type?
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 08:01
When reading all this threads I wonder who are the people behind that masks of names. When I started to get into prog in the early 70-ies I was one of perhaps two classmates who liked this kind of music. I was also a bit shy, had no girls around me. Was that the reason I fell in love with prog? All my friends who had girls and were not shy didn't like prog. I found myself sometimes sitting in the cellar in the dark on a seat just listening to prog (GENESIS, GENTLE GIANT etc) instead lurking around with my friends. - So the question is: are you this type? The typical prog type?
Did you change till now?
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 09:17
I am. But buy choice. Kinda.
I'm agoraphobic AND asexual. Music has been my life since the age of five. My only real friends are my band mates. I did have friends in school, but most of the time I use to just walk around listening to music on my walkman (those were the days).
It sounds kinda lame really... but when I was growing up and all the boys started to like girls and discovered alcohol etc... I stuck with my music. I come from a very musical family so it's always been a part of my life.
As you've guessed I currently don't have a girlfriend. 
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 10:14
Yes, it's sad but true. I was like that at school too. I've changed a little since those days but my taste in music is still the same.
Proggers do it on their own.  
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 10:18
Valarius wrote:
I'm ... asexual
... I currently don't have a girlfriend.  |
If you're asexual, why would you want a girlfriend? 
Don't worry anyway. You're still very young yet.
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 10:19
No not really, I was a metalhead during schooltime, always had friends around. Was a bit agressive those days, better now. I listened to Genesis and GG, but metal more.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 10:28
At school I was a bit of a metal head, then I moved more to prog music, but I donīt consider myself a prog type and only listen to prog (I would become isolated) So I think the secret is to listen to some other mainstream stuff as well. I also listen to bands like Live and Velvet Revolver.
So at the end of the day I donīt really have any social fitting in problems 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 10:52
I guess I am the prog anti-type.
I have settled down now but in my youth I was a loud,abrasive,rowdy hell-raiser,was always quick to fight,and was never shy around girls.A voracious reader and also a big jock in school,played football,lacrosse and baseball.But never hung out with the jocks because even though I was good in sports I had long hair,and smoked weed like crazy.
No one could figure me out because I was a big metalhead but also listened to tons of prog,which I have been into since about the age of 11.
I was a total study in opposites.
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 11:23
TheProgtologist wrote:
No one could figure me out because I was a big metalhead but also listened to tons of prog,which I have been into since about the age of 11.
I was a total study in opposites.
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I'm a study in opposites but the other way round. I have always looked really normal and listen to prog but I have always been quite keen on some extreme metal as well. People could never believe that I listened to that kind of music.
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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 11:32
Well, it's true that I don't have a girlfriend, but...
Nope. I got a lot of friends (of different nationalities), I play in a
soccer team for an in-school tournament, I listen to some other stuff
(Classical, Metal, Hard Rock, Classic Rock). I don't really ever go out
though but I've been asked to come with people several times and though
I'd loved to go, either I couldn't, they suddenly couldn't, or I just
didn't manage to pick up the phone.
Anyway, I guess that since I've discovered prog, my "social status" has gone upwards instead of downwards.
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"THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 14:38
I'm not sure I conform completely to a prog type. Despite being 37 I'm single with pretty much no hope of changing the situation, so I guess that may be consistent..
As a teenager I was a metal head, who was introduced to prog by a fellow head banger. I took to it immediately, and I've loved it since. I have a lot of friends, and I'm quite sociable and extrovert, but have difficulty sharing my space and time women - hence the single thing. Could be an only child thing, I guess. I never learned to share space or resolve conflicts as a child. I think I'm happier on my own with my music and my friends.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:17
I seem to be fitting the mold, apparently, although more along the
lines of The Progtologist and Blacksword. I was a pop-monger
until puberty. Once puberty hit, I discovered metal. Parallel to metal, I also
discovered Rush, Genesis, and Yes. I was definitely an extrovert, and
seemed to get along with a wide range of different "cliques", although
I was technically a "Chorus Geek" (sang in some form of ensemble or
other all through high school). I played a lot of baseball growing up,
but now I'm not as athletic as I was (I need to get back in shape!) Now I'm married, with no kids... yet.
Once I had my first "experience" (as Mr. Hendrix put it), and
discovered Pink Floyd, my musical horizons really exploded, and I've
been discovering and enjoying bizarre and weird music ever since (in
not only prog, but pretty much any genre, short of country or hip-hop).
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:30
I dont know, do all progers hate most of the modern world?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:43
sleeper wrote:
I dont know, do all progers hate most of the modern world? |
Yes, most aspects of it, apart from the Internet which is the perfect medium to share our disgust!
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:44
Empathy wrote:
I seem to be fitting the mold, apparently, although more along the
lines of The Progtologist and Blacksword. I was a pop-monger
until puberty. Once puberty hit, I discovered metal. Parallel to metal, I also
discovered Rush, Genesis, and Yes. I was definitely an extrovert, and
seemed to get along with a wide range of different "cliques", although
I was technically a "Chorus Geek" (sang in some form of ensemble or
other all through high school). I played a lot of baseball growing up,
but now I'm not as athletic as I was (I need to get back in shape!) Now I'm married, with no kids... yet.
Once I had my first "experience" (as Mr. Hendrix put it), and
discovered Pink Floyd, my musical horizons really exploded, and I've
been discovering and enjoying bizarre and weird music ever since (in
not only prog, but pretty much any genre, short of country or hip-hop).
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Ah yes, Rush was my intro to prog too. Exit Stage Left to be precise, and Genesis promptly followed.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:45
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:45
Bob Greece wrote:
Valarius wrote:
I'm ... asexual
... I currently don't have a girlfriend.  |
If you're asexual, why would you want a girlfriend? 
Don't worry anyway. You're still very young yet. |
Um, there are kinda a LOT more things to a relationship than sex. I'm pretty much asexual, but I still want a girlfriend, but hahah like that's gonna happen. Anyways, socially in some settings I'm pretty outgoing, while in others I'm more reclusive. But I mostly hang out w/ my friends on weekends so I guess i dont qualify for this "prog" title.
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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:55
uh...
I'm normal, drink and used to be on drugs, listened to prog, rock,
Hardcore, Jazz, Metal...name it, you got it and that since i'm 8.
Always had girlfriends.
Maybe that's because I'm a musician, but I maybe your just missing a
point or two in life to not being able to simply have girlfriend...I
mean, how tough is that?
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:57
Ha....you make it sound so easy
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:10
Inferno wrote:
uh...
I'm normal, drink and used to be on drugs, listened to prog, rock,
Hardcore, Jazz, Metal...name it, you got it and that since i'm 8.
Always had girlfriends.
Maybe that's because I'm a musician, but I maybe your just missing a
point or two in life to not being able to simply have girlfriend...I
mean, how tough is that?
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Pretty tough. The ratio of men to women in my town is about 5 - 2, allegedly, and the women are more masculine than the men!
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:18
Blacksword wrote:
Inferno wrote:
uh...
I'm normal, drink and used to be on drugs, listened to prog, rock, Hardcore, Jazz, Metal...name it, you got it and that since i'm 8. Always had girlfriends.
Maybe that's because I'm a musician, but I maybe your just missing a point or two in life to not being able to simply have girlfriend...I mean, how tough is that?
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Pretty tough. The ratio of men to women in my town is about 5 - 2, allegedly, and the women are more masculine than the men!  |
what?
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:26
I've pretty much always been into music, starting with a major (and lifelong) Beatles obsession, picking up The Who and bits of Zeppelin in my early teens, then Tangerine Dream, Can, Mike Oldfield and other instrumental type stuff - the major thing for me was discovering Magma, Captain Beefheart and Henry Cow in my mid teens, just about the time punk took off in the UK. Unlike my prog buddies in school (who always were a bit suspicious of my Fabs obsession and my more avant garde tastes) I welcomed a lot of the changes brought about by punk, although most of the early UK punk bands were pretty dismal. Along with that ran my taste for altered states (though these days I pretty much stay straight, barring the occasional spliff) and radical politics (slightly moderated these days, but still an unrepentant lefty). I had girlfriends, (although I was in my early 20s before it went beyond a couple of dates), I went to parties, got into the odd spot of trouble, went on demonstrations, went to zillions of gigs and spent enormous quantities of time in pubs, hitch hiked hither and yon and was a generally dissolute young man. Aside from the Yes and Genesis albums, not that typical from what I've read so far.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:46
Blacksword wrote:
Pretty tough. The ratio of men to women in my town is about 5 - 2, allegedly, and the women are more masculine than the men!
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Well, there goes that trip to England I had planned. You mean to tell me all women over there don't look like this???

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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:48
Blacksword wrote:
Inferno wrote:
uh...
I'm normal, drink and used to be on drugs, listened to prog, rock,
Hardcore, Jazz, Metal...name it, you got it and that since i'm 8.
Always had girlfriends.
Maybe that's because I'm a musician, but I maybe your just missing a
point or two in life to not being able to simply have girlfriend...I
mean, how tough is that?
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Pretty tough. The ratio of men to women in my town is about 5 - 2, allegedly, and the women are more masculine than the men!
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That's not the case around here in Montreal!
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 20:04
Bob Greece wrote:
Valarius wrote:
I'm ... asexual
... I currently don't have a girlfriend.  |
If you're asexual, why would you want a girlfriend? 
Don't worry anyway. You're still very young yet. |
It's just that kinda feeling you get. Sometimes you get lonely and you see people out and about with their partners and wish you could be the same.
It's just annoying because I've never been much into relationships. I personally find them to compromising. I think my longest relationship was about 2 months, and I finished with her (and I told her the truth) because it didn't feel right to me. I told her about my passion for music etc and said that it wasn't gonna work out.
Anyhow, that was about two years ago and I'm getting that feeling again. I'm worried I'll meet some girl and it'll be the same all over again.
Now if I met a girl who was into prog... 
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Posted By: bruin69
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 20:23
Well, I'm gay, but when I first got into prog had no idea about that (I was a late developer). But my partner - we've been together 25 years - doesn't understand prog at all...
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 21:38
Thats the thing. I've never even had a relationship. No one'll give me a chance. I"ve at this point given up....at least i have my music....
EDIT: New report, not only does the person I like still like someone who is already going out with someone, but the other person I was starting to like, my best friend now really likes. I'm so sick of this total bullsh*t. Valarius, you are a lucky person. Teach me your ways
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Posted By: Abalaea4
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 21:53
I know people who fit perfectly in the 'prog-type' category as it is described and don't have ever listen prog music so i don't think there is such thing as prog-type or pop-type or anything else.As for me i'm a normal guy i suppose.
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 00:25
I don't know what i'm doing here if i judge on the kind of person that visits the site. I'm not introverted at all, i like making jokes, and i have a lot of friends but i'm the only one who listens prog, and i never talk about it, that's why i came to the forum for the first time, i was looking for prog buddies, at least to chat.
I had some women ( i'm not a sex symbol but i never had problems with getting girls), but currently i have a girlfriend, and i can assure you that it's something wonderful to have.
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 00:30
Valarius wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
Valarius wrote:
I'm ... asexual
... I currently don't have a girlfriend.  |
If you're asexual, why would you want a girlfriend? 
Don't worry anyway. You're still very young yet. |
It's just that kinda feeling you get. Sometimes you get lonely and you see people out and about with their partners and wish you could be the same.
It's just annoying because I've never been much into relationships. I personally find them to compromising. I think my longest relationship was about 2 months, and I finished with her (and I told her the truth) because it didn't feel right to me. I told her about my passion for music etc and said that it wasn't gonna work out.
Anyhow, that was about two years ago and I'm getting that feeling again. I'm worried I'll meet some girl and it'll be the same all over again.
Now if I met a girl who was into prog...  |
Sometimes if you talk with much passion about something your girl may think that everything is more important than her , that's why you shouldn't talk much about prog to a girl. My girlfriend knows about my passion , but i don't talk about it every day for that reason.
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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 02:56
Hahaha!
Rosso, that last line made me laugh. It's priceless.
I'm living the exact situation then you (if you read what I posted
earlier in that post) at the moment I don't have a girlfriend but...I
have a lot of girls near me. Only a matter of decision ;)
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 05:39
Empathy wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Pretty tough. The ratio of men to women in my town is about 5 - 2, allegedly, and the women are more masculine than the men!
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Well, there goes that trip to England I had planned. You mean to tell me all women over there don't look like this???
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Well, I cant see your pic, Empathy, but I can imagine what it looks like. So, I'll say no. Not in my town, anyway. If you take a 20 minute train ride out of town the picture is very different. I think my town has a national reputation as the place 'not to be' if you're male and single. Hence my decision to continue living here, may seem a little odd...
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 06:09
Inferno wrote:
I maybe your just missing a point or two in life to not being able to simply have girlfriend...I mean, how tough is that?
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Eh? It's really really tough. One of the toughest things in the world. Getting a PhD in rocket science is easier.
You must know something that most of us don't.
What's your secret then Mr. Stud Inferno?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 06:14
Yeah, come on Stud Inferno
Tell us your secret, and dont play the 'musician' card either. I was a drummer in a band with a reasonable female following for a few years, and I only got my leg over once in that time.
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Posted By: Rapataz
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 06:39
jojim wrote:
When reading all this threads I wonder who are the people behind that masks of names. When I started to get into prog in the early 70-ies I was one of perhaps two classmates who liked this kind of music. I was also a bit shy, had no girls around me. Was that the reason I fell in love with prog? All my friends who had girls and were not shy didn't like prog. I found myself sometimes sitting in the cellar in the dark on a seat just listening to prog (GENESIS, GENTLE GIANT etc) instead lurking around with my friends. - So the question is: are you this type? The typical prog type?
Did you change till now?
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No it didnīt change and it is a prog type
It was all the same with me...
But luckily listening to prog and psychedelic music made me go out very often to Festivals and freaky, druggy parties and stuff like that so that I became attractive because of my obvious freakness
(well thatīs actually what my girl friend told me)
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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:20
I've always loved prog. A friend of mine always liked rock (Stones, Springsteen, Clash). Another friend liked electronic music (Human League, Depeshe Mode, Yaz). Another friend liked top 10. We were all equally successful with women. It's not the music or the type of person who likes the music. Each to his (or her) own. I'm not sure if there really is "a type".
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the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 12:31
TheProgtologist wrote:
I guess I am the prog anti-type.
I have settled down now but in my youth I was a loud,abrasive,rowdy hell-raiser,was always quick to fight,and was never shy around girls.A voracious reader and also a big jock in school,played football,lacrosse and baseball.But never hung out with the jocks because even though I was good in sports I had long hair,and smoked weed like crazy.
No one could figure me out because I was a big metalhead but also listened to tons of prog,which I have been into since about the age of 11.
I was a total study in opposites.
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Shhhhhiiiiiitttttt!!!!  You beat me to that definition of the anteprog-superstar type 
Actually your profile reads a bit like mine : no Lacrosse - but hockey, yes and football twice school Champions as outside left linebacker and hated hanging out with the jocks also - and never that much of a metalhead - had my metalhead (I think I listened to Sad Wings Of Destiny over 500 times in two years) era just before my year of punk (78) , and only moderate (but nothing to be ashamed of either << just not as great as I wished it ) success with the ladies - but outside a two year drought, it was never really a problem, since I had a female friend , not a girlfriend who could accomodate me (and I her) in between girlfriends.
I was good in many things (including sports) until I discovered "sex, drugs and RnR" (around 77) but I was listening to prog since 75 (Supertramp, Floyd and Genesis) , and then I even became better  but in different disciplines  >> I held provincial records of skipping school that maybe still stand today - and still managed to get a 70% average ( >> and maybe the lowest result ever in an accounting course >> I refused to drop out and managed a 21% average >> I think this still stands today )
Long hair and dope, rock, girls etc >> a good youth  , not without the usual screw ups and blunders, but hardly anything I cannot laugh at today.
Recommended to most progheads not afraid of life 
nowadays I like to update it to "Women, wine and songs" >> same stuff , sounds more dignified to the old crusthead I am becoming  !! Must say the old bod is paying theprice for the years of excesses, and a bit of neglect >> time to worry about it a bit
But Andy/Blacksword: I completely agree about the state of this frigging planet/world/society, and it is the main reason I will not have kids of mine in this bleak future. But getting laid regularly is soothing a lot of anguishes  !! Plenty of women out there, just maybe need to change outlook and targets. I had to also since Elle McPherson was taken!!! 
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 12:34
Secrets? How should I know the secret. I only act myself and people
love it.Tho, here's a coupe of tips that I've learned thro the years.
Girls don't like hearing you talking about the same old thing over and
over and over again. (in that case, about prog) Have a wider center of
interest then only prog, this will help ;)
Be open to what she likes, even if you don't like it at first. There is
good in every thing you know, andsomething to learn about it too. Be
gentle and give gift to her at any occassion. A girl I met like a year
ago, she liked System of a down. So I bought a pair of ticket, front
row, for her birthday. I knew her for something like a month or so.
Crazy? Maybe, but you got to try in life. Girls like guys that have the
audacity of doing something you would never imagine!!
There you go, now go get some girls!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 12:45
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 16:12
Sean Trane wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
I guess I am the prog anti-type.I have settled down now but in my youth I was a loud,abrasive,rowdy hell-raiser,was always quick to fight,and was never shy around girls.A voracious reader and also a big jock in school,played football,lacrosse and baseball.But never hung out with the jocks because even though I was good in sports I had long hair,and smoked weed like crazy.No one could figure me out because I was a big metalhead but also listened to tons of prog,which I have been into since about the age of 11.I was a total study in opposites. |
Shhhhhiiiiiitttttt!!!! You beat me to that definition of the anteprog superstar type[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
Actually your profile reads a bit like mine : no Lacrosse - but hockey, yes - and never that much of a metalhead - had my time just before my year of punk (79) , and maybe only moderate success with the ladies - but outside a two year drought, it was never really a problem, since I had a female friend , not a girlfriend - who could accomodate me and I her in between girlfriends.
I was good in many things (including sports) until I discovered "sex, drugs and RnR" (around 77) , and then I even became better[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> but in different disciplines[IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> >> I held provincial records of skipping school that maybe still stand today - and still managed to get a 70% average
Long hair and dope, rock, girls etc >> a good youth[IMG]height=17 alt="Thumbs Up" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" width=23 align=absMiddle>, not without the usual screw ups and blunders, but hardly anything I can not laugh at today. I could recopmmend this youth as a four star >> essential but not masterpiece? Recommended to most progheads not afraid of life[IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
nowadays I like to update it to "Women, wine and songs" >> same stuff , sounds more dignified to the old crusthead I am becoming[IMG]height=17 alt=Tongue src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
But Andy/Blacksword: I completely agree about the state of this frigging planet/world/society, and it is the main reason I will not have kids of mine in this bleak future. But getting laid regularly is soothing a lot of anguishes[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>!! Plenty of women out there, just maybe need to change outlook and targets. I had to also since Elle McPherson was taken!!![IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> |
Elle was 'overated' anyway. I dumped her because she didn't dig prog. I think you've had a lucky escape..
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 17:23
Soooooooo, we didn't find out what makes people listen to prog. IF not the lack of girls, feelings, fear of the future. What is it then?
Sometimes I suppose that it was the awful relationship to my parents (esp. father). Other time I think it is a kind of yearning to be in an other place - far away. Like a sailor discovering foreign countries and islands.
And sometimes I think that I'm a pretty nervous person to keep track of most of the prog songs. If I'm seriousl: most of them sounds very harsh and chaotic, not soft, very energetic, very upsetting. Most people don't even bear it just to listen to it. They cannot stand it!!! - I can.
So - what is the secret?
Thanks for the overall interesting discussion anyway. Perhaps someone has a clue - and will let us having a short insight.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:06
jojim wrote:
Soooooooo, we didn't find out what makes people listen to prog. IF not the lack of girls, feelings, fear of the future. What is it then?Sometimes I suppose that it was the awful relationship to my parents (esp. father). Other time I think it is a kind of yearning to be in an other place - far away. Like a sailor discovering foreign countries and islands. And sometimes I think that I'm a pretty nervous person to keep track of most of the prog songs. If I'm seriousl: most of them sounds very harsh and chaotic, not soft, very energetic, very upsetting. Most people don't even bear it just to listen to it. They cannot stand it!!! - I can.So - what is the secret?Thanks for the overall interesting discussion anyway. Perhaps someone has a clue - and will let us having a short insight.
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Prog certainly took me somewhere else. To, what I percieved to be a better place than the world around me. I had a difficult teenage life; my father died and school stressed me out. Music, especially prog hauled me through my teens like a good dependable friend. By the time I reached my twenties, and I settled down a bit, I actually drifted away from prog for a while; almost as if I didn't need the escapism. But, of course I went back to it purely through realising that it was emotionally and technically superior music to everything else I had been listening to in my 'prog free' days.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:14
I'm sorry to hear about your childhood man. But it's good to see that you went back to prog.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 18:15
My first steps to prog probably started with Metallica. So I believe the secret to prog is Metallica.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:32
Well, I do have a girlfriend, I have few but genuine friends, i dont like big crowds, I hate partying, I listen to music peferably with a dim light,... and thats about it, I think....
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:34
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 20:19
Yeah, prog for me started with Metallicas ...And Justice for all *wtf its not letting me use commas ANYWAYS* and actually Co&Cas In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. And yes, Dream Theater made me aware of the genre, and theyre still my top band, along w *wtf no backslashes either* Pink Floyd, Rush, Porcupine Tree, Fates Warning, Symphony X, and TMV. Other than the girl situation *pardon the overcomplaining im kinda going through a really tough period* Im pretty social though, but I do enjoy being alone w/ music *THERE'S the backslash...and apostrophe's! and comma,s !*
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 21:52
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 22:13
Just the pleasure that comes from listening to something that is very much like a puzzle, or a good book, I guess. I'm very much into Art, and I think prog is just a good way to force music into that direction. Lack of girls... no, not for me at least.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: May 05 2006 at 02:53
Posted By: progrockgirl
Date Posted: May 05 2006 at 03:42
If there is really a prog type, then I suppose that I fit the mold. I'm
basically introverted and love to absorb myself in my interests, which
are not mainstream. I love to sit and listen to my prog for hours, and
the time passes so quickly. I've had a concurrent interest in reggae,
but it lacks the compelling complexity and technical brilliance of
prog. And yes, I despise modern pop culture, at least here in
America.
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:16
I dont think that i am that 'prog type', because always making joke, going out, talk with other and stuff. BUT here in town tha i study i feel like a freak. Everybody think of me like" ah, that guy who listens weird music?'. I hate that, i dont know people who love prog, or even love their music. I just lay down in the night and enjoy prog...That's life :)
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:20
Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: May 05 2006 at 18:47
Yeah the guy whos really into music, has a almost noexistant sociallife is its not music realted, none of the (few) friends he has are female. Thats me, im starting to get better about being social and stuff, just not with mainstream society i am seeking out other "weird" people like myself to hang out with weather their weirdness stems form prog or not  
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 06 2006 at 12:45
Well, I think I'm not a prog type ... I've a lot of friends (male and female) and usually go out with them. Actually I don't have a girlfriend. What happens with me is that I'm not friend of "popular" people in school ...
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: May 06 2006 at 18:35
I'm probably not the prog "type", if such a thing exists.
I played football (soccer) for nine years, and have always loved
sports. I don't have that many friends, just five very close ones. I
don't like crowds, I'll admit that, and you wouldn't get me into a
"disco" for any money, but that certainly doesn't mean I don't know how
to have fun when the feeling strikes me.
I look perfectly normal (I think ),
and I get along with most people pretty easily, but I'm not too good at
"small talk", because to me it sounds like a complete waste of time. I
like to discuss real topics. I don't talk about prog much (outside this
place), mainly because no-one's interested. I'm not shy, but not too "aggressive" either.
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Posted By: I|I|I|I|I
Date Posted: May 06 2006 at 22:55
I wouldn't necessarily classify myself as a prog-type, but as a music
nerd in general (some would probably call me a loser, but we'll get to
the refuting evidence later )
I listen to everything (not just prog) but prog is probably my favorite
genre. I love to sing (usually classical, but some jazz/theater pieces)
and I love writing music, most of which is "proggy". I play a lot of
jazz on the clarinet, too, and I also play piano on which I do
jazz/classical/avant-garde kind of improvisation. As for listening, I'm
seriously all over the place... jazz, classical, hip-hop, world, rock,
ambient, electronica, metal, and of course, prog.
Most people who are like this have pretty much never seen a girl in
their life. Well, somehow I got lucky - I'm relatively decent-looking
and well-spoken, and I can hold my own in social situations without
question. I've had a few girlfriends, and I do my share of drugs upon
occasion. I also involve myself in things outside of music, like
theater and just chilling out, etc. I also do relatively well in school.
So there ya have me, kind of a music nerd with social capabilities and stuff. Certainly not the general prog-stereotype.
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31725
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Posted By: Serguilloche
Date Posted: May 07 2006 at 06:03
I would say 'No, I'm not the prog type' from what you're describing. I
didn't really think there was a 'type' for ages, until I settled into
my new job.
People couldn't believe that I was a scifi/fantasy reading, prog and
metal loving person. They call me the 'posh, arrogant bloke with the
long hair'. What the hell else did they expect me to listen to? Prog
can be a bit nerdy, but at the same time it's also a sort of musical
arrogance.
I have no problems with women, they like a bit of mystery I suppose,
and most blokes are just open books, while I keep my secrets to
myself. I also have no problems approaching a woman I fancy. IMO this
is the big issue to a lot of people - women generally only go out with
men who ask them out. Learning to handle rejection is a major life
skill - I know people with 1st class degrees with crappy jobs, because
they're too scared to put themselves out there in case they don't the
first job they go for. Same with women, if one rejects, never mind,
play the numbers game and learn from experience. Remember all those
beautiful, intelligent women hanging out with stupid, unsuitable men?
It's because those blokes are too stupid to feel rejected so they'll
ask anyone out, and the beautiful woman is tired of waiting for the
intelligent rich guy to ask her because he's too nervous, she ends up
going out with the moron.
To paraphrase Anthony Robbins - 'Imagine all the things you could do if you weren't scared'
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