Child In Time

I've just read kazimir's review of "Deep Purple In Rock" in which he accuses them of plagiarism by stealing "Child In Time" from a song called "Bombay Calling" by "It's A Beautiful Day".

This is the first I've heard of it so I did a bit of digging. It seems that David LaFlamme of IABD pinched it from someone called Vince Wallace in the first place - see here for more details

http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/gramophone/873/vince.html# (sorry the Insert Hyperlink button doesn't work any more).

Deep Purple seemed to have acknowledged this themselves by releasing a DVD called "Bombay Calling" - anyone know any more about this?

Even if it was stolen, the guitar solo and phenomenal vocals (especially on Made In Japan) make it unique.

mystic fred wrote: if i hadn't have heard "bombay calling" i wouldn't have known, it literally jumped out at me. many musicians and writers get accused of plagiarism occasionally, most famously george harrison's "my sweet lord" ("he's so fine"-george lost the case), led zeppelin's "whole lotta love" (small faces "you need loving"), and the recent controversy over "the davinci code". many of them do it hoping they won't get caught!

wow, never heard of this before

As said before on a separate thread, there has been mutual acknowledgements by  Deep Purple (30th Anniversary In Rock CD remaster liner notes) and Its A Beautiful Day (the twoforone IABD/Marrying Maiden liner notes) of where Child In Time/Bombay Calling came from: Johanne Sebastian Bach, like many other early prog tunes - Ars Vita Brevis Longa Nice's pillage of Bach's Brandenberg Three, etc. Deep Purple admit they were turned on by IABD's version - and you can guarantee that Jon Lord who was studying musical theory as par tof his musical development at the time would have been studying the classical masters.

Dick Heath wrote: As said before on a separate thread, there has been mutual acknowledgements by  Deep Purple (30th Anniversary In Rock CD remaster liner notes) and Its A Beautiful Day (the twoforone IABD/Marrying Maiden liner notes) of where Child In Time/Bombay Calling came from: Johanne Sebastian Bach, like many other early prog tunes .

I have tocorrect myself, checking back on my twofor one IABD CD, liner notes are no more than track listings and band line-up details. SO now I'll have to  chewck out my source????

Apologies. - but certainly read in context of being stated by  David LaFlamme with the CD reissue

RycheMan wrote: Even if it was stolen, the guitar solo and phenomenal vocals (especially on Made In Japan) make it unique.

Hear, hear!

I don't want to defend plagiarism in any way (if, indeed, we have a case of out-and-out plagiarism here), but it takes more than copying a few notes to really steal a song from another artist... What DP made with that song lifted it into world-class.

bsurmano wrote: earlyprog wrote: It was quite common in the 60's that the bands "borrowed" stuff from other bands - this was and still is an important parameter for music to develop and evolve. The Beatles did it quite extensively. But it doesn't authorize someone to massacre an otherwise great album and give it such a bad rating. There are other, more proper means to express facts and fiction. Like starting this thread.   I've read kazimir review since it happens to be chronologically first after mine and I've been just waiting to se reaction on it (frankly, I've expected to see it earlier).'Deep Purple in Rock' album consists not only of 'Child In Time' track; there are also other songs which have made this album planetary popular not only at the time of its release but till nowadays.

Actually, my reacton was earlier. This thread was started in April but someone resurrected it recently.

Musically, "Child in Time" is a great song, however I believ the lyrics are bit immature, and finite, Ian Gillan could have sdone more with this tune lyrically