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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Topic: Genesis bootleg DVD Posted: April 05 2006 at 06:21 |
Hello. I just noticed that the DVD Genesis Live has been reviewed, THIS IS A BOOTLEG, AN UNOFFICIALLY GENESIS DVD!! |
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 07:04 |
I'll contact Matti about the addition Erik.
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Jimbo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 28 2005 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 2818 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 13:44 |
? So, what's next, Tony? Do you want me to delete it ?
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Guillermo
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 01:09 |
If you are talking about the Genesis concert film done at Shepperton Studios in October 1973, I have a copy of that concert, and originally it wasn`t a bootleg. It was an ofiicial video, produced by Tony Stratton-Smith. The film starts with the credit "Tony Stratton-Smith presents Genesis in Concert". Maybe the copies available today are bootlegs, but the film was produced by the Charisma Records` boss. He also was their manager until mid 1973. I didn`t buy this DVD. It was given as a gift to me. More details: http://www.genesis-movement.org in the Videos section in the main menu. It was filmed in October 31, 1973. Some fragments of this video appear in the "Genesis- A History" VHS/Laser Disc video which was released by Polygram Video in the U.S. and Virgin Video in England in 1991. I added this video to the Progarchives` Genesis Discography in 2005. Edited by Guillermo |
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Avatar: Photo of Solar Eclipse, Mexico City, July 1991. A great experience to see. Maybe once in a lifetime.
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Matti
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 01:36 |
If it must be deleted go ahead, but I'd see it as unnecessary censorship and wouldn't please 4. What all the other PA members think? Should Genesis Live DVD be deleted or not? Yours sincerely, Matti (my first reaction to Erik's message was kinda baffled yesterday, Edited by Matti |
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Guillermo
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 02:05 |
IMO, the Shepperton Film is very good, a very good example of a Genesis concert with Gabriel and Hackett.It is of historic interest. But, if the PA Administrators think that it should be deleted from the PA database, I respect their decision.
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Avatar: Photo of Solar Eclipse, Mexico City, July 1991. A great experience to see. Maybe once in a lifetime.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 03:51 |
Hello Matti. I fully believe in your honest intentions but a while ago Prog Archives decided not to accept bootleg CD's and DVD's (like from Pink Floyd, UK and now Genesis). In my opinion a bootleg is a not officially released item but you can have your questions about the Classic Rock releases that contain material that is not supported by the band like King Crimson, Fripp is not amused with the Inside King Crimson DVD! The Genesis Live bootleg DVD contains Shepperton 73, The Midnight Special 73 and Montreal 74 (black and white show). I own many early Genesis(1970-1977) bootleg DVD's with very rare footage, I would like to write about it but Prog Archives has decided not to accept bootlegs. That's the policy and in my opinion we have to respect that, as Guillermo also states. So sorry Matti, don't consider me as the Progrock Inquisition ....
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Matti
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 05:00 |
Thanks Erik. I'm not considering you as Inquisition! Track listing Edited by Matti |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 05:35 |
Reading your review, Matti, I still remember very vividly the first time I watched early Genesis footage, it was so exciting and thrilling, especially the closing section from The Musical Box with Peter wearing the old man mask, GOOSE BUMPS, it was like I had entered another world !
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67407 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 08:54 |
Excuse my ignorance, but all unofficial releases aren't bootlegs, are
they? Many compilations, for example, aren't exactly official, right?
This Genesis DVD is widely available and it's even advertised on this
site, so is it actually a bootleg or not?
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goose
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 12:20 |
It's presumably available as a bootleg, but I downloaded mine as a legitimate (but unofficial) recording. I don't think it belongs here in the context of this site - on the other hand I'd be happy if the context of this site changed to allow unofficial recordings in order to represent a better history of the bands involved. Of course it presumably gets a little hard to police then.
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31319 |
Posted: April 08 2006 at 16:27 |
I bought my copy in a local store here in Norway! So it's very unlikely a bootleg! I've seen it available on many online stores too!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67407 |
Posted: April 09 2006 at 08:49 |
Maybe it's been previously available as a bootleg, but has been legally released in 2004? I bought mine at a department store, so it's highly unlikely that it's a bootleg.
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