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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 01:37 |
^ if one decides to ignore metal, that's fine by me ... but I'm always tempted to respond to lengthy posts in detail. I agree that pursuing this is off-topic, so I will let it go.
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eugene
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 04:38 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ if one decides to ignore metal, that's fine by me ... but I'm always tempted to respond to lengthy posts in detail.
I agree that pursuing this is off-topic, so I will let it go.![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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You will let it go...![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
It's great relief, mr. metal-lobbyist!
Your reply "in detail" proved to me that I'm wasting my time on discussions with you, but as long as you missed the main point of my post, I have to highlight it for you - your assumptions, remarks and implications about me (or anyone else) disliking something on the basis of limited knowledge of the subject are boorish, disrespectful and plain stupid, - and I'm not going to tolerate this.
And, as far as metal concerned, yes, I definitely should be more condescending, (as long as I was trying to convince my parents that heavy metal is of higher level than Bizet and Stravinskiy when I was 16-17 years old)![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 04:54 |
Ok, since you insist ... let me comment on your statement again (2nd try):
eugene wrote:
Actually now, after reading this thread I got interested in Kayo Dot, which would never have happened provided "prog-metal" label remain intact, as I lost interest in metal since quite a while...
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Aren't you saying that you dismissed the whole metal genre (MAYBE because you had given up on finding something interesting there), but you DO find Kayo Dot interesting? Doesn't that mean that something that you had already dismissed later surprised you?
BTW: I wasn't implying anything. I merely compared your statement to another one (about symphonic prog), which wasn't exactly the same. I never said that your reason for abandoning the genre was that you only knew the most popular bands.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 11:46 |
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Also too good for Progmetal! ![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
Okay, half of the people are against me, and three of them are members of the Prog Metal team so I suppose that's where I forfeit. I had an opinion, which wasn't accepted by too many people, but I expressed it and I have no regrets. People don't share it, so I'll calm down.
Topic is finished for me, Mike and Yevgeniy feel free to talk about progmetal as much as you want in this thread. ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
-- Ivan
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 11:54 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
Sigh...
Eugene's point was merely that he doesn't really enjoy metal anymore, no need to blow it up into a huge dispute...
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I didn't have a problem with what he said,it's how he said it. Most of us are adults on here,we don't need to be patronized.
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eugene
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:32 |
I finally got to listen to three Kayo Dot tracks (summing upto about 35 mins), and on the basis of what I've heard, I can say that to call it Prog-metal is very simplistic approach. I would rather call it Experimental.
Although they are much more interesting band than ordinary prog-metal stuff, their music did not convince me enough for further investigation of their works. Nevertheless I maintain my point that initiation of this kind of discussions is very useful thing, as it might help other non-metal proglovers to discover interesting bands, which otherwise could be passed by.
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Antennas
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:55 |
I've just started checking out this band, and from what I've been hearing, I'm as of yet very pleased!
I rather consider them to be Experimental/Post-rock than Prog-metal, as they seem to be a lot more innovative and alternative. But in all, the categorization of bands will always remain a problem, and I feel lucky that it's not me to have to throw the final verdict... ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either
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oracus
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 04:10 |
its RIO/Avant-Prog with a "metal touch"
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goose
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:42 |
They're a metal band who do things differently. Shouldn't that be the point of prog metal?
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