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MajesterX 
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 Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:46 |
 I...really um, can't tell any difference between the two, one is just shorter. I also like art rock alot more because there is no arguing over "o, well spock's beard and IQ can't be progressive I mean they're not really progressing".
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:11 |
 alan_pfeifer wrote:
I still say Art Rock fits best. |
I don't believe so, because this would imply that the rest of Rock music is not art,, what we know is not correct.
Plus the fact that the term Art Rock has evolved in something different.
Iván
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:12 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
alan_pfeifer wrote:
I still say Art Rock fits best. |
I don't believe so, because this would imply that the rest of Rock music is not art,, what we know is not correct.
Plus the fact that the term Art Rock has evolved in something different.
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Well, then you can also say that you can't call Prog "Progressive Rock", since that would mean other Rock doesn't "progress". 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:18 |
ivansfr0st wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
alan_pfeifer wrote:
I still say Art Rock fits best. |
I don't believe so, because this would imply that the rest of Rock music is not art,, what we know is not correct.
Plus the fact that the term Art Rock has evolved in something different.
Iván
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Well, then you can also say that you can't call Prog "Progressive Rock", since that would mean other Rock doesn't "progress".
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No Ivan, because Progressive Rock doesn't have to Progress, it's just a name of a genre. Anglagard or Magenta didn't progressed an inch from the music that was made by the Prog' pioneers in the 70's and both are considered 100% Progressive Rock bands.
But Art Rock is an adjective that is qualifying what we know as Progresive Rock like the only form of artistic Prog.
Ok what the hell, why do we care for a name?
Iván
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richardh
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:40 |
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''Prog''. Less pretentious!
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martinprog77
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:57 |
HOW ABOUT ''MUSIC THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE WONT GET IT''
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there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 01:18 |
martinprog77 wrote:
HOW ABOUT ''MUSIC THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE WONT GET IT'' |
Now...that's snob, but I like it
Iván
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Joolz
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:08 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
No Ivan, because Progressive Rock doesn't have to Progress, it's just a name of a genre. Anglagard or Magenta didn't progressed an inch from the music that was made by the Prog' pioneers in the 70's and both are considered 100% Progressive Rock bands. |
Ah, but that's why the term 'Progressive Rock' is misleading - it gives the impression of being a descriptive term and it implies innovation and movement. 'Prog', however, is just a tag, a convenient handle without the additional baggage. Some bands genuinely do innovate and progress, many others do not. Which is why I tend to prefer to use a simple tag like 'Prog' but would be happy with a better suggestion.
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Chipiron
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:12 |
Progressive Rock.
In Spanish, "Rock progresivo" sounds pedantic, but "Prog" sounds... like the sound of a frog.
Stupid reply for my post number 600...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:34 |
Progressive rock and in Dutch: symfonische rock
Still, I do understand the need to abbreviate, so it's prog and progrock, and in Dutch: symfo. I do understand, it's just not very aesthetic. I have a preference for the more "epic" expressions.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:52 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Progressive rock and in Dutch: symfonische rock
Still, I do understand the need to abbreviate, so it's prog and progrock, and in Dutch: symfo. I do understand, it's just not very aesthetic. I have a preference for the more "epic" expressions.
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Exactly, prog may or may not be symphonic, that's why when you say "symphonic", you cover only the kind of prog most popular groups produce, but far from everything.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:20 |
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I prefer progressive music...
Some "prog" music isn't rock at all...
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The Hemulen
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:30 |
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A lot of prog has very little in common with rock (especially the groups I tend to listen to), so I tend to opt for prog, unless I'm talking to someone with no prior prog experience.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:40 |
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Yes, moreover the use of the term "prog" or "progressive" free the genre from the obligatory "rock" counterpart -and rock has become a very vague term-.
It enables to include musics not considered as prog, like in the following sentence:
"Debussy is prog".
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ProgFan
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:57 |
I have chose for Progressive rock, but it doesn't bother me really. It's all the same and it goes more about the music, than about the name
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micky
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 10:17 |
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prog for me
easier to differeniate the genre from those who were perveyors of meer 'progressive' rock.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Zenith
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:16 |
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Has and allways will be Prog Rock for me.
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We're only in it for the music!!!
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Zargus
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 19:07 |
In sweden most people say Symfoni Rock = Symphony Rock. And thats the term i yuse most of the time if someone asks me what type of music i lisen to. I have tryed to say prog some times but many of todayes yuth dont seem to know what that is. 
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ozzy_tom
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:36 |
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I don't care about the name. Music is more important for me.
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The Wizard
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:39 |
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Prog rock is what I say.
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