Prog or Progressive Rock ? (poll)
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Topic: Prog or Progressive Rock ? (poll)
Posted By: White Feather
Subject: Prog or Progressive Rock ? (poll)
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 10:32
The name prog is something I put up with , personally I much prefer it to be called Progressive Rock , to me Prog sounds unattractive and subdued, where as Progressive Rock has a more descriptive meaning about it and suggests a bigger impression , what do you think ? do you prefer to call this genre Prog or Progressive Rock or maybe something else?  ------------- |
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 10:36
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I prefer progressive rock,but prog doesn't bother me much.
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Posted By: helofloki
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 10:40
| I chose other. But instead of having some new crazy idea, it's more like they're exactly equal in my mind. It's true that "progressive rock" has a possibly more persuasive or elegant tone, but prog is easy to say, which is the point. It's an abbreviation. Do you dislike abbreviations or something? :P |
Posted By: Harold Demure
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:10
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I really don't care wheter it's called "Progressive Rock" or "Prog", but the shorter version is more convenient to use, while the longer one tells more about the music itself. ------------- You can choose a ready guide In some celestial voice If you choose not to decide You still have made a choice |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:21
It used to be called "progressive" initially. Since language lazynness is a global trend, it logically was reduced to "prog". The next step is no word at all. Better produce progressive CDs with a dedicated smell then ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:29
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Progressive Rock definitely!! The other thing doesn't have any flavor! If you're going to abbreviate it I'd prefer PR for that matter... |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:31
| Progressive Rock sounds better as it is the original term. |
Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:32
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Out dated term anyway. Progressive rock? in 2006? Re-gressive more like. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:35
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I like to say "I heart prog!" in a silly American accent teenager accent but when talking on an intelligent level I say "progressive rock" in my polite, natural British accent. ------------- I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8 |
Posted By: Ounamahl
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:55
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In Finland "Prog" is "Proge", which sounds quite nice Finnish. But in English progressive rock is better for me.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 12:05
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For me terms "Prog" and "Progressive rock" bear slightly different meanings. Prog (short of "Progressive") IMO is more wider term. For example Enid or Kotebel or Contrappunto Project are assosiated for me with word "Prog", but simply Contappunto or Rush or Focus are progressive rock. Prog might (or might not) include progressive rock among its components, plus always something else (classical, jazz, whatever else), while progressive rock is only progressive rock, if you know what I mean. King Crimson - prog, Anekdoten - progressive rock Taal - prog, 4/3 de trio - progressive rock etc etc etc etc.............. Prog is not necessarily better than progressive rock (it depends on particular artists) - just wider. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 12:46
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I disagree. I consider "prog" to be the short form of "progrock", which is a description of a specific sound. "Progressive rock", in my opinion, is any rock that progresses, therefore, a group that is "progrock" may or may not be "Progressive" and vice versa. Speaking about the aim of this site, I think it is not only collectings as many artists that follow the usual "prog" sound, but also to expand it under its own definitions, supplied by the site admins. For example, I fail to see how My Dying Bride were rejected without any doubt at all, whereas they are both "progressive" and "prog" enough for this website. -- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: JusLisn
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 13:02
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It seems to me that, back in the seventies, it was all ROCK. Every now and then you would hear someone use the word "progressive" to descibe the cutting-edge, experimental sound that we now call "progressive rock", to differentiate the gender. "Prog" was simply an abbreviation. Now I hear people use the word "prog" as a sub-gender. So, I guess you could say that the terms we use to describe the music we love so much is PROGRESSING. It's ALL good. ------------- Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo. So little time, so much to know. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 13:44
I agree with that. |
Ounamahl wrote:Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 13:53
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Personally I prefer progressive music, as a lot of prog bands have...nothing in common with rock anymore...but that´s just the name, right?
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 14:43
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Right! That's basically what I was trying to say. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 14:47
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Me too. Bottom line, call it prog, call it progressive rock, just don't call me late for supper! ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: White Queen
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 17:43
I like progressive rock Maybe thats why I can't get into Gentle Giant Edit: I take that back. I'm finally starting to get into them  |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 18:04
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Progressive Rock for people who don't know the genre and Prog for people who know what I'm talking about.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 18:53
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Progressive rock when I talk to people who hear the term for the first time, prog when I talk to other proggies.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:03
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Yep |
Same here. Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:11
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i use the term prog when im on the computer because its faster, i use progressive rock when talking because i like the sound of it better ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:28
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For God's sake, it's just a name and a short version, that's all....Who cares? Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 23:16
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I voted for other and think I would like to see the name Polka become more identified with the music. No, but seriously, that was for Ivan. I would like to see it called progressive music since a lot of it really is not rock music, like Tangerine Dream for instance. Rock music comes with so much baggage anyway. |
Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 23:26
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Progressive rock but i like art rock also. Isn't that what progressive rock was origionally called? When did people start calling it progressive rock? ------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants. 
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Posted By: White Feather
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 00:45
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 00:50
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Prog, Progressive Rock, Progressive Music, its the same for me.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 01:19
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Not so exact: Progressive Rock and Rock represent a determined gebre with it's own characteristics which BTW don't include the need to progress. Progressive Music is just an adjective to describe music that it's beyond their time or that tries to go further than mainstream. Iván -------------
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 08:15
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There is a subgenre in the modern disco music called "progressive", so i think "progressive rock" is the right term. In Italy: La (famale "the") progressive: progressive disco music. Il (male "the") progressive: rock progressive.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 15:02
There's something called Progressive House in Rave Dance scenario also. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 18:15
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Progrock. ------------- http://www.soundclick.com/rosescar/ - My music! "THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 18:34
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:32
Yes, sadly. |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:46
It's progressive compared to all other clichè and boring modern rock bands. |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:47
If there is a difference, then it's the complete opposite of what you're saying actually. |
Posted By: Zweck
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:01
Is that a problem? Is this something I should be worried about? |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:15
In the UK in the mid/late 60's it was called progressive music - see the first entry of the reviews of the Various section in PA - progressive rock probably dates from the early 70's |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:35
Opposite what, in your opinion? ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:41
| I still say Art Rock fits best. |
Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:46
| Yes are 'Prog' because it's a convenient box to put them in. But they ceased to progress long ago - IMHO most bands only progress for a short while, then settle into their own identifiable style. |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:46
 I...really um, can't tell any difference between the two, one is just shorter. I also like art rock alot more because there is no arguing over "o, well spock's beard and IQ can't be progressive I mean they're not really progressing".
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:11
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I don't believe so, because this would imply that the rest of Rock music is not art,, what we know is not correct. Plus the fact that the term Art Rock has evolved in something different. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:12
Well, then you can also say that you can't call Prog "Progressive Rock", since that would mean other Rock doesn't "progress". -- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:18
No Ivan, because Progressive Rock doesn't have to Progress, it's just a name of a genre. Anglagard or Magenta didn't progressed an inch from the music that was made by the Prog' pioneers in the 70's and both are considered 100% Progressive Rock bands. But Art Rock is an adjective that is qualifying what we know as Progresive Rock like the only form of artistic Prog. Ok what the hell, why do we care for a name? Iván -------------
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:40
| ''Prog''. Less pretentious! |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:57
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HOW ABOUT ''MUSIC THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE WONT GET IT'' ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 01:18
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Now...that's snob, but I like it Iván -------------
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:08
Ah, but that's why the term 'Progressive Rock' is misleading - it gives the impression of being a descriptive term and it implies innovation and movement. 'Prog', however, is just a tag, a convenient handle without the additional baggage. Some bands genuinely do innovate and progress, many others do not. Which is why I tend to prefer to use a simple tag like 'Prog' but would be happy with a better suggestion. |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:12
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Progressive Rock. In Spanish, "Rock progresivo" sounds pedantic, but "Prog" sounds... like the sound of a frog. Stupid reply for my post number 600... ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:34
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Progressive rock and in Dutch: symfonische rock Still, I do understand the need to abbreviate, so it's prog and progrock, and in Dutch: symfo. I do understand, it's just not very aesthetic. I have a preference for the more "epic" expressions. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:52
Exactly, prog may or may not be symphonic, that's why when you say "symphonic", you cover only the kind of prog most popular groups produce, but far from everything. -- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:20
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I prefer progressive music...
Some "prog" music isn't rock at all... |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:30
| A lot of prog has very little in common with rock (especially the groups I tend to listen to), so I tend to opt for prog, unless I'm talking to someone with no prior prog experience. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 08:40
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Yes, moreover the use of the term "prog" or "progressive" free the genre from the obligatory "rock" counterpart -and rock has become a very vague term-.
It enables to include musics not considered as prog, like in the following sentence: "Debussy is prog". |
Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:57
I have chose for Progressive rock, but it doesn't bother me really. It's all the same and it goes more about the music, than about the name
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 10:17
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prog for me easier to differeniate the genre from those who were perveyors of meer 'progressive' rock. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:16
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Has and allways will be Prog Rock for me. ------------- We're only in it for the music!!! |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 19:07
In sweden most people say Symfoni Rock = Symphony Rock. And thats the term i yuse most of the time if someone asks me what type of music i lisen to. I have tryed to say prog some times but many of todayes yuth dont seem to know what that is.  ------------- 
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Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:36
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I don't care about the name. Music is more important for me. -------------  
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:39
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Prog rock is what I say. -------------  
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Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 12:55
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Isn't it the same as Pop Rock and Popular Rock? Both are the same ain't it? Just a label anyway... ------------- <<Dark side of Z' Drummination>> |
Posted By: Maga
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 13:05
| progressive rock sounds more respectful to me |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 13:32
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Prog refers to the actual music content in my mind (complexity, so on...). Progressive Rock refers to any rock music that "takes the music to a new place or new level, hence "progressive." ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 13:45
Since when was progressive rock supposed to be easy? I prefer "progressive rock," but I say prog all the time. ------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 13:48
| Progressive Rock sounds "bigger". |