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    Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:05

I always wondered about this question.

Which is the first ever power metal album?

IMO it has to be QUEENSRYCHE'S EP (1983) !!!

Although they evolved afterwards, I find this to be an excellent pure power metal album

Am I the only one???

Note: I don't consider bands that were in the NWOBHM genre etc. that can be classified as proto-power , I mean power metal as it is considered nowadays (Helloween etc.)
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I'd suggest Iron Maiden's debut. Somewhere around 1980 there is a transition between NWOBHM and "Modern" Power Metal ...
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Points: 3064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:33

How about "Battle Hymns" of MANOWAR released in 1982?

PANTERA: "Metal Magic" (1983)

RATT: "Ratt" (miniCD 1983)

SAVATAGE: "Sirens" (1983)

VIRGIN STEELE: "Virgin Steele" (1982)

AGENT STEEL: "The Unstoppable Force" (1982)
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I always considered Iron Maiden to be the original power metal band...
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I disagree with Iron Maiden as power metal, maybe a transition as Mike said

ANDREW:

Battle hymns: epic metal

Pantera: Not much of power metal, kind of hard/glam rock in their early days

Ratt: NWOBHM

Sirens: very close to power metal, mostly heavy metal

Virgin Steele: same as above, more of epic/heavy metal

The unstoppable force: 1987 (the first time I caught you not well informed)
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Points: 21149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:10

Remember that there are two different types of Power Metal: European and American:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_metal
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:32

^ definitely agree Mike

European: Helloween, Blind Guardian etc.

American: Heathen, Agent Steel, Hades etc.

American Power has a more thrashy approach...
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:41
What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.
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^ Powerslave has some 'power metal' moments...

but generally, no, they are not considered power metal
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Well, there is a definitive connection between Iron Maiden and Helloween ... I think that Iron Maiden are forerunners of Power Metal - the only problem is that a) they started in another genre (NWOBHM) and b) the label "Power Metal" simply hadn't been "invented" yet back then.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Well, there is a definitive connection between Iron Maiden and Helloween ... I think that Iron Maiden are forerunners of Power Metal - the only problem is that a) they started in another genre (NWOBHM) and b) the label "Power Metal" simply hadn't been "invented" yet back then.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Well, there is a definitive connection between Iron Maiden and Helloween ... I think that Iron Maiden are forerunners of Power Metal - the only problem is that a) they started in another genre (NWOBHM) and b) the label "Power Metal" simply hadn't been "invented" yet back then.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?

New Wave of British Heavy Metal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 14:08

Besides there seems to be numerous power metal bands that sound very similar to iron maiden

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I want to say Black Sabbath "Heaven and Hell". 1980 right?
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:35
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Well, there is a definitive connection between Iron Maiden and Helloween ... I think that Iron Maiden are forerunners of Power Metal - the only problem is that a) they started in another genre (NWOBHM) and b) the label "Power Metal" simply hadn't been "invented" yet back then.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?

New Wave of British Heavy Metal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM

So not a genre then.
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Points: 21149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:45
^  That would depend on your definition of "genre". NWOBHM is a good genre definition in my opinion, as all those bands share some key properties. I'd say that it is as much a genre as Canterbury, RIO or Bay Area Thrash.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^  That would depend on your definition of "genre". NWOBHM is a good genre definition in my opinion, as all those bands share some key properties. I'd say that it is as much a genre as Canterbury, RIO or Bay Area Thrash.

That wikipedia certainly is a good definition for some of the bands, but not all................ok maybe your right. 
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:00

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...
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