Genesis/Yes comparison

There was a topic like this a while back, but I searched and it must be gone.  Anyway, compare Yes and Genesis members and albums.

Members

Gabriel v. Jon Anderson: Gabriel by a small bit.

Steve Howe v. Steve Hackett: completely equal

Rutherford v. Squire: Squire

Banks v. Wakeman: Banks by a small bit.

Collins v. Bruford v. White: Bruford>White=Collins

Albums (Classic albums only)

Trespass v. Yes Album- Trespass by a small bit, but I love both.

Nursery Cryme v. Fragile- Nursery Cryme, but I think both are overrated.

Foxtrot v. Close to the Edge- Close to the Edge by a bit, both are awesome.

Selling England v. Relayer- Relayer, but they're pretty close (both great).

Lamb Lies Down v. Tales- Tough, both equal I think (not huge on both, but they have good moments).

 

Overall, the two bands are almost equal IMO: at their best, they're about impossible to beat.  However, I prefer Yes by abit, mostly because of there more serious nature, and there subject matter (majestic stuff, Battles and such.)  What about you guys?

 

I love both bands best moments the same..but I hate Genesis' worst moments by far more than Yes'

I like the comparative format:

Gabriel vs. Anderson: Definitively Gabriel
Hacket vs. Howe: equal
Rutherford vs. Squire: certainly Squire
Banks vs. Wakeman: Banks edges Wakeman out
Bruford vs. White vs. Collins: Bruford > Collins > White

Only unfair contest above is between Gabriel and Anderson

Album:
Trespass vs. Yes Album: Yes Album tromps Trespass
Nursery Cryme vs. Fragile: equally not the greatest
Foxtrot vs. CttE: Foxtrot; Supper's Ready beats CttE handily
Selling England vs. Relayer: Selling
Lamb vs. Tales: Lamb by miles

Unfair contests: Yes Album > Trespass and Lamb > Tales

Compositions: Genesis > Yes

Gabriel   Howe   Squire   Banks   Bruford

trespass vs. the yes album   the yes album (but I do like trespass) 

nursery crime vs. fragile    they're both spotty but fragile I guess

foxtrot vs. selling England vs. close to the edge vs. relayer    foxtrot and CttE

IMO these are the best 4 albums both bands did so I'm comparing them all together so I will rank them

1 foxtrot by far the best album ever made by ether band

2 CttE very interesting and enjoyable

3 selling England also very good just not as good as CttE

4 relayer I consider to be the first prog album I ever bought (I mean at the time I didn't know what prog was even though I had aqualung and darkside of the moon this was the first hard to get use to album I bought and responsible for a few months of lost time in exploring the genre) altough not at first I like it now

the lamb vs. tales  this one's hard because I like but don't love ether I guess I'd give the honor to tales

 

Edited by kane83

Yes vs. Genesis: How can you compare the two giants of the '70?

At least this is an honest try

So this is my assessment:

Gabriel vs. Jon Anderson: A draw allthough not comparable

Hackett vs. Howe: Howe for me

Rutherford vs. Squire: No contest, Squire wins by a mile

Banks vs. Wakeman/Moraz/Kaye: Wakeman>Banks>Moraz>Kaye

Collins vs. Bruford/White: equal though different

Trespass vs. The Yes Album: The Yes Album (nothing compared to Yours is No Disgrace on Trespass)

Nursery Cryme vs. Fragile: (almost) equal (The Musical Box and Fountain of Salmacis vs. Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise)

Foxtrot vs. Close to the Edge: Close to the Edge, a level never reached by Genesis

Selling England vs. Relayer: By a hair: Selling England mainly because of Cinema Show

Lamb vs. Tales: Tales fore me, I don't like the Lamb very much, too much Gabriel, to little the rest of the band.

Overall: Yes and Genesis are the greatest two bands of English Symphonic Rock of the '70. I prefer Yes slighty over Genesis, but both are absolutely great.

Members

Gabriel v. Jon Anderson: Gabriel by a mile, I hate Jon's voice.

Steve Howe v. Steve Hackett: Steve Hackett because of what he did with Genesis and because of his solo career

Rutherford v. Squire: Squire no doubt

Banks v. Wakeman: Banks as a band player, Wakeman as a soloist

Collins v. Bruford v. White: Bruford>Collins>>>>>>>>>>>White

Albums (Classic albums only)

Trespass v. Yes Album- Trespass by a bit, even though Yes Album is more solid, it's just taste

Nursery Cryme v. Fragile- Nursery Cryme by a mile, Fragile is one of the weakest Yes albums IMO

Foxtrot v. Close to the Edge- FOXTROT by a nose

Selling England v. Relayer- Relayer and by far.

Lamb Lies Down v. Tales- The Lamb is light years better IMO, it's an icon of Prog Rock, while Tales is one of the most dissapointing Yes albums. I never heard a co-author saying one of his albums is pile of sh*t as Rick did in the 70's.

Overall Genesis, I consider a lot of bands better than Yes.

Iván 

Edited by ivan_2068

ivan_2068 wrote: Members Gabriel v. Jon Anderson: Gabriel by a mile, I hate Jon's voice. Steve Howe v. Steve Hackett: Steve Hackett because of what he did with Genesis and because of his solo career Rutherford v. Squire: Squire no doubt Banks v. Wakeman: Banks as a band player, Wakeman as a soloist Collins v. Bruford v. White: Bruford>Collins>>>>>>>>>>>White Albums (Classic albums only) Trespass v. Yes Album- Trespass by a bit, even though Yes Album is more solid, it's just taste Nursery Cryme v. Fragile- Nursery Cryme by a mile, Fragile is one of the weakest Yes albums IMO Foxtrot v. Close to the Edge- FOXTROT by a nose Selling England v. Relayer- Relayer and by far. Lamb Lies Down v. Tales- The Lamb is light years better IMO, it's an icon of Prog Rock, while Tales is one of the most disappointing Yes albums. I never heard a co-author saying one of his albums is pile of sh*t as Rick did in the 70's. Overall Genesis, I consider a lot of bands better than Yes. Iván

I agree with you on every statement

ivan_2068 wrote: Members Gabriel v. Jon Anderson: Gabriel by a mile, I hate Jon's voice. Steve Howe v. Steve Hackett: Steve Hackett because of what he did with Genesis and because of his solo career Rutherford v. Squire: Squire no doubt Banks v. Wakeman: Banks as a band player, Wakeman as a soloist Collins v. Bruford v. White: Bruford>Collins>>>>>>>>>>>White Albums (Classic albums only) Trespass v. Yes Album- Trespass by a bit, even though Yes Album is more solid, it's just taste Nursery Cryme v. Fragile- Nursery Cryme by a mile, Fragile is one of the weakest Yes albums IMO Foxtrot v. Close to the Edge- FOXTROT by a nose Selling England v. Relayer- Relayer and by far. Lamb Lies Down v. Tales- The Lamb is light years better IMO, it's an icon of Prog Rock, while Tales is one of the most dissapointing Yes albums. I never heard a co-author saying one of his albums is pile of sh*t as Rick did in the 70's. Well, considering the amount of sh*t Rick has done as a solo artist, his words doesn't mean anything in my opinion. Ritchie Blackmore has also stated that Fireball is crap, and we all know that is ridiculous. Overall Genesis, I consider a lot of bands better than Yes. Iván

Both at the top IMO.
The only thing I can say for sure Squire is leagues over Rutherford in bass playing and sound.
Bruford much more creative drummer than Collins.
Yes much more advanced in the voval harmony and counterpoint department.
Gabriel writes better stories than Anderson but both are about my favorite vocalists.

welcome to prog'n'roll high school!

yes: freaks
genesis: nerds
ELP: jocks

anyone for nutters and beauty queens??? then we'll
have the complete cast of "the breakfast club"

PS:
gabriel
howe
squire
banks
bruford
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yes album
nursery cryme
close to the edge
relayer
the lamb lies down on broadway