why women dont like prog?

IM SURE THIS ONE WAS POST BEFORE BUT ANYWAY.IM NOT SURE WHY .ALL THE GIRLS I KNOW NOBODY LIKE PROG[SOME DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT PROG IS ABOUT]AND PREFERT TO LISTEN POP OR SOMETHING LIKE RICKY MARTIN.EVEN MY WIFE DONT LIKE IT TOO MUCH[EXCEPT CAMEL,SPOCKS BEARD,GENESIS,AND THE FLOWER KINGS]SO ANYBODY KNOW WHY WOMEN ARENT INTO PROG?AND WOMEN OUT THERE CAN YOU ANWSER THIS ONE...PS THE FIRST WOMAN I KNOW WHO WAS INTO PROG IS MY MOM[ SHE IS A BIG FAN OF QUEEN,PINK FLOYD,CAMEL,GENESIS AND YES].TO MY MOTHER NOEMI I LOVE YOUFOR EVERYTHING

DONT WORRY PROG-JESTER YOU ARE TOO YOUNG AND AGREE WOMEN ARE FOR LOVE BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW COOL TO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND [OR MAYBE MORE]WHO LOVES PROG .THAT COULD BE GREAT.

Agree .Some girls whom I know use to listen to metal music(which sometimes related to prog...a few of them even aquainted with DT,PoS,Lacrimosa etc).I gave Collage's "Moonshine" to the girl from my university...now she wants more!!! Gonna give her some Neo Prog soon

Another girl who I know is going to be the keyboard player in my band(we play Doom,inspired by OPETH,MY DUING BRIDE and ESTATIC FEAR).What a pity - she lives in other town .But she enjoyed everything I sent her(a CD-r copies of the best from Genesis,IQ,Marillion,Collage,King Crimson,Camel etc works)...

The situation is not that hopeless!

One reason women do not like prog because is because they can't relate to the lyrics.  For women lyrics are of an ultimate importance and they like sappy lyrics more than a good riff or chord progression.  Women like to be able to sing along to music, and for women, the meaning of the song is more important than the music itself.  Have you ever heard a woman say, "Hey check out that sweet interplay between those instruments." or, "wow the chord structures are so brilliant", or "hey check out that sick virtuosic solo" no simply because most women do not really care about those sorts of things. MOST.  Not to say that women can't like prog or classical or jazz music, but they tend to prefer it for the "feeling" the music exudes rather than the sake of just listening to some interesting chords, lines, complex arrangements etc.  Which is not to say that listening to music for its "feeling" is the wrong way of listening to music, but generally, women tend to hear music on a feeling standpoint.  Ohh these lyrics make me feel this way, this song is soo sad, this is my sad collection of songs.  (have you ever met a guy who has a "sad" collection of songs, or a "happy" collection)  Oh this song is so romantic and makes me feel something something.  Oh this classical song, or progressive rock song "feels" nice, but they won't like music for it's sheer virtuosity, complexity, originality, weird factor, or progressive qualities, which is what progressive music is all about.  For instance, a woman could NEVER get into some really technical, atonal, math-metal that is so complex and intricate but doesn't give off any feeling whatsoever.  THAT's why women tend to dislike progressive rock.    

The question is, are there any differences in the demographics. How many males like progressive music?

A female friend first introduced me to early Genesis, when I was a teenager and was into Jane' Addiction, thrash/death metal and grunge. A year later, my girlfriend then introduced me to Zappa and King Crimson.

I was convinced by another female friend of mine to give Soft Machine, VdGG and Gong another chance after first dismissing it. She even gave me and my girlfriend her own copy of Wyatt's 'Rock Bottom', because she thougt we had to have it.

Last year I was at a birthday party for a girlfriend of hers.  On the invitation it  said: You are invited to an evening of a simple buffet/food and complex music. illustrated by a picture of Mr. Wyatt and the girl on wheels from 'Nursery Cryme'. That evening was ruined by drunk boys, wanting to hear party music they could dance to.

What can I say? Go to art school (I did), maybe.

Mr. Plant, I think some of your generalisation is very wrong an unhealthy. I have sad and happy collection of songs as well. And I listen to music for its feeling.

Guess I wouldn't get into a really technical, atonal, math metal that is so complex and intricate that it doesen't give off any feeling whatsoever, either.




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robertplantowns wrote: One reason women do not like prog because is because they can't relate to the lyrics.  For women lyrics are of an ultimate importance and they like sappy lyrics more than a good riff or chord progression.  Women like to be able to sing along to music, and for women, the meaning of the song is more important than the music itself.  Have you ever heard a woman say, "Hey check out that sweet interplay between those instruments." or, "wow the chord structures are so brilliant", or "hey check out that sick virtuosic solo" no simply because most women do not really care about those sorts of things. MOST.  Not to say that women can't like prog or classical or jazz music, but they tend to prefer it for the "feeling" the music exudes rather than the sake of just listening to some interesting chords, lines, complex arrangements etc.  Which is not to say that listening to music for its "feeling" is the wrong way of listening to music, but generally, women tend to hear music on a feeling standpoint.  Ohh these lyrics make me feel this way, this song is soo sad, this is my sad collection of songs.  (have you ever met a guy who has a "sad" collection of songs, or a "happy" collection)  Oh this song is so romantic and makes me feel something something.  Oh this classical song, or progressive rock song "feels" nice, but they won't like music for it's sheer virtuosity, complexity, originality, weird factor, or progressive qualities, which is what progressive music is all about.  For instance, a woman could NEVER get into some really technical, atonal, math-metal that is so complex and intricate but doesn't give off any feeling whatsoever.  THAT's why women tend to dislike progressive rock.

Well, I think anyone who listens to music just to look for complex arrangements or interesting chords has his head stuck up his bum, to be honest. Why don't you just read the sheet music instead? You might as well look at paintings to search for curves of interesting functions! That's what's wrong with some of the modern composers, by the way. The concept is more important to them than the sound. I really don't care that Krachmanninoff's "Concerto for Badly Tuned Orchestra and Two Sewing-Machines" makes use of the fastest and most complex rhythms ever (the syncopated rhythms of the sewing needles working at a slightly different tempo) or that Noisoffski's "Symphony for 200 Refrigerators" mixes the sounds of these refrigerators in a really intricate way if the result of it does not move me a bit. If you are not able to fill your complexity with a soul, you are not a musician, you are a technician.


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robertplantowns wrote: One reason women do not like prog because is because they can't relate to the lyrics.  For women lyrics are of an ultimate importance and they like sappy lyrics more than a good riff or chord progression.  Women like to be able to sing along to music, and for women, the meaning of the song is more important than the music itself.  Have you ever heard a woman say, "Hey check out that sweet interplay between those instruments." or, "wow the chord structures are so brilliant", or "hey check out that sick virtuosic solo" no simply because most women do not really care about those sorts of things. MOST.  Not to say that women can't like prog or classical or jazz music, but they tend to prefer it for the "feeling" the music exudes rather than the sake of just listening to some interesting chords, lines, complex arrangements etc.  Which is not to say that listening to music for its "feeling" is the wrong way of listening to music, but generally, women tend to hear music on a feeling standpoint.  Ohh these lyrics make me feel this way, this song is soo sad, this is my sad collection of songs.  (have you ever met a guy who has a "sad" collection of songs, or a "happy" collection)  Oh this song is so romantic and makes me feel something something.  Oh this classical song, or progressive rock song "feels" nice, but they won't like music for it's sheer virtuosity, complexity, originality, weird factor, or progressive qualities, which is what progressive music is all about.  For instance, a woman could NEVER get into some really technical, atonal, math-metal that is so complex and intricate but doesn't give off any feeling whatsoever.  THAT's why women tend to dislike progressive rock.

Well, I think anyone who listens to music just to look for complex arrangements or interesting chords has his head stuck up his bum, to be honest. Why don't you just read the sheet music instead? You might as well look at paintings to search for curves of interesting functions! That's what's wrong with some of the modern composers, by the way. The concept is more important to them than the sound. I really don't care that Krachmanninoff's "Concerto for Badly Tuned Orchestra and Two Sewing-Machines" makes use of the fastest and most complex rhythms ever (the syncopated rhythms of the sewing needles working at a slightly different tempo) or that Noisoffski's "Symphony for 200 Refrigerators" mixes the sounds of these refrigerators in a really intricate way if the result of it does not move me a bit. If you are not able to fill your complexity with a soul, you are not a musician, you are a technician.
If it is all about complexity, write a complicated computer program that will do things no-one has done before and no-human being can play and then play it to another computer; maybe the other computer will enjoy it.

Anyway, Blacksword comment is quite true!

Probobly becaus all the prog rockers are so uggly and they dont play thire songs on the radio