Who must leave Rush ? (poll)

^Exactly!

mattuati wrote: Cant replace them!  No way!

ahhh... maybe a better question.... what could have made Rush...better..

a true keyboardist
a 'better' singer
a 2nd guitarist
a decent lyricist


hmmmm....

micky wrote: mattuati wrote: Cant replace them!  No way! ahhh... maybe a better question.... what could have made Rush...better.. a true keyboardist a 'better' singer a 2nd guitarist a decent lyricist hmmmm....

bah!  i can maybe give you some points on #1, none for #2 and #3, and as for #4,
but at least we agree to love Tales from Topographic Oceans (earlier thread)...musical tastes can be a funny thing! 

Maybe.....MAYBE.......get a new singer, but keep Geddy on bass!


They just wouldn't be the same bound without all of them still there.

TheProgtologist wrote: AngleofRepose wrote: Bonham was replaceable. You must not be a big Zep fan. Zep isn't Zep without Bonzo behind the kit.

 

I totally agree. Bonzo was a drum master.....

Surely one of the strongest and best drummers ever.

 

do 5 ft tall guys ever get lucky with women? maybe a lobster? just kidding, but sci-fi geeks do get on my nerves!

micky wrote: mattuati wrote: Cant replace them!  No way! ahhh... maybe a better question.... what could have made Rush...better.. a true keyboardist a 'better' singer a 2nd guitarist a decent lyricist hmmmm....

OPTION 2 PLEASE!!!  I insist, keep The Witch just as a bassist and include a real decent singer...that would be great for all of us who would love to find a Rush Karaoke CD to enjoy their great musicianship.

 

Rushatlantic wrote: micky wrote: mattuati wrote: Cant replace them!  No way! ahhh... maybe a better question.... what could have made Rush...better.. a true keyboardist a 'better' singer a 2nd guitarist a decent lyricist hmmmm.... Decent lyrics!?!   Neil Perts lyrics are some of the best ever! He is a true poet and intellectual

ran across this, this morning... thoughts?

from a discussion between a Rush fanatic and album reviewer George Sarostin....

I would want to just concentrate everybody's attention on this paragraph from his ode to Neil Peart's powers

"Let's take Hemispheres next, the source for your Greek mythology cut. To be honest, Hemispheres is not one of my favorite examples of his writing, but to flatly dismiss it, as bad Greek mythology would be to miss the point. On the outside, it is simply a story of warring Greek gods. On the next level it is a description of the heart/mind dichotomy, which is a common them in literature. Finally, on the third level, it is a tale of the dangers of extremism and the necessity for balance. Certainly the need for balance, in any aspect of our lives, is a valuable insight. Once again I would not suggest this is great poetry or philosophy but I am very willing to claim that it possesses far more value than the vast majority of rock lyrics, which tend to either be shallow and banal or completely nonsensical and incoherent."

Now: I am in no way trying to deny that the heart/mind dichotomy is a common theme in literature - on the contrary, it is a WAY too common theme, that has doubtlessly been explored by at least several thousand writers, painters, musicians, and philosophers prior to Neil Peart's existence. Nor am I denying the "need for balance". The major gripe with Mr Peart doesn't happen to be with his exploring strange, or weird, or offensive, or just dumb topics. The major gripe is that Mr Peart has nothing to say that has not been said, in much better ways or at least JUST as well, before.

Now of course one could say that themes of heart and mind dichotomy, individualism, etc., etc. aren't that much less complex/thought provoking than lyrical subjects explored by better rock lyricists, such as - in the prog genre - Peter Gabriel and Peter Hammill, for instance. However, the thing with rock lyrics, or, in fact, with most of the lyrics/poetry of the second part of the XXth century, is that, since they just can't help but explore already explored topics, the important thing is not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. This is the problem that usually evades Peart and suchlike defenders - the FORM in these lyrics is just as important, and arguably more important, than their SUBSTANCE. And by FORM I mean trying to find new, previously unexploited, non-cliched, non-stagnant ways of expressing these subjects. Neil Peart isn't the worst lyricist to have ever existed, but he has nothing on, say, the subtle wit and word games of 'Dancing With The Moonlit Knight'. Likewise, he hasn't got the grip and the all-out erudition of Peter Hammill, whose lyrics draw upon much more imagery and far more original, imaginative constructions, than Peart, whose lyrics often end up seeming like they come straight from an advanced course in psychology, or from one of Ayn Rand's novels for that matter.

Returning to 'Hemispheres' - like I said, I don't mind being told about the heart/soul dichotomy; I DO mind being told about it in a pretentious, bombastic manner by a guy who actually does nothing but chew the same cud that has already been chewn by many an illustrious writer/poet/philosopher before him. Essentially, it's just a "poor man's course in deep thinking" - it can certainly be of some use to your average illiterate Rush fan who's too lazy to read, I dunno, Aristoteles, for instance, but who will be willing to give Neil Peart a try just because, uh, Rush rock, man.

Rush without any of these guys is NOT RUSH!!!!!

theyve been together so long and they have an instinctual quality to there playing. Geddy and neil=AMAZING rythm and Geddy and Alex are so natural together.

if u havnt seen the R30 dvd WATCH IT!!!!

It really shows that they have been doing this for over 30 year

DON'T STOP NOW!!!!!!!!

 

AGAIN...

  NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!