Who must leave Rush ? (poll)
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Topic: Who must leave Rush ? (poll)
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Who must leave Rush ? (poll)
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 22:57
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Just say somebody must leave Rush, who would you prefer it to be ? not many bands have been together as long as Rush without change in their line up (all but their debut without Peart) sooner or later change must come it always does. Which member can be replaced ? By not voting it means you would prefer the band to call it a day. To quote the professor "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" |
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Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:20
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Please: ------------- Arriving somewhere but not here |
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:23
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Votes for Lifeson?
Rush isn't Rush with any member gone. Case and point. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:33
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I'm not voting. No way, Rush without any of the three can't exist. Like Zeppelin without Bonham. |
Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:34
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RUSH isn't Rush without one of them (Lee, Lifeson, Peart) Instead of it... Would you think of including a 4th member on keyboards? ------------- Arriving somewhere but not here |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:46
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I agree with most people here that any one leaving would just simply end Rush's rein.
BUUUT! If I were to sack any one of them, it would be Geddy. His voice is about as pleasant to listen to as nails on a chalkboard. Replacement? Haven't a clue. Greg Lake, but no keys. John Wetton the same. Bass/keyboard player that sings is not exactly very common. |
Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:57
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LEE, LIFESON, PEART & RUDESS? ------------- Arriving somewhere but not here |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 00:15
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Rush would not function with any one of them gone! They just wouldn't be Rush. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 00:26
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Yep, it just wouldn't be the same without any of them. There's only 3 of them to begin with!!!
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 00:30
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Alex is not an amazing guitarist, but his personality is great and his stage presence really goes well with the band. No one can be replaced in Rush but talent wise Lifeson is the weakest link. I'd like to see a keyboardist added maybe just for a song. I'd be very upset if it were Rudess though, maybe a classic progger though: Banks, Emerson, Wakeman etc ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 00:30
ditto ------------- |
Prog-man wrote:Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 01:19
All of them--- quickly and with little fanfare. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 01:22
| Bonham was replaceable. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:03
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All three musicians are essential for Rush.It wouldn't be the same band without any of them. |
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:09
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No one can leave...it's easier to think to an addiction... ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:54
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Kick out the woman.
------------- http://www.soundclick.com/rosescar/ - My music! "THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:45
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How come they never replaced him then? Bizarre poll, all 3 are vital to Rush and they wouldn't be the same without any of them. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:49
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:51
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You must not be a big Zep fan. Zep isn't Zep without Bonzo behind the kit. ------------- |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:52
dithree...quick it with these questions... ------------- 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 08:10
Ho hummmmm........ ------------- 
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 08:17
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All of them, all of Rush's members. We should replace them with Emerson, Lake and Palmer and call the new group "Emerson, Lake and Palmer" for instance. Besides, we'd take Emerson, Lake and Palmer and replace them with Rush and we'd call the new group something like "Rush"... Besides, I think I'm replacing myself with someone else and go for lunch. See you later. ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 08:23
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:12
I`m going to take a risk here, I`m going to speak honestly from how I see things, Rush`s last three CD`s (Including Feedback) have had one thing in common Alex Lifesons performance has been very ordinary (not up to par) ... For this reason I`m afraid I`m gonna have to let Alex go , hate to do it but I must 
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:20
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Sorry, but replacing any of them is unthinkable!!!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:49
 replace G.Lee with P.Gabriel
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:51
why does it happen?....because it happens.......a flower? 
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Posted By: stechell
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 10:01
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NO THEY DON'T NEED TO REPLACE ANYBODY. RUSH NEEDS TO LOOK FOR A SINGER, LEAVING THE WITCH JUST FOR THE BASS AND KEYS. IF POSSIBLE RERECORD ALL DISCOGRAPHY, WITH A DECENT SINGER. |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 10:10
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It's hard to say, because each member of Rush is very important in this band. Well, maybe without Neal Peart Rush would be... Rush |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 10:17
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 10:23
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I think you must be joking.... Rush with Emerson, Rush with Rudess, Rush with I don't know who else... Some of you may not like them ,even loathe them, but those three musicians ARE Rush, and they would just not be the same anymore. As to a "decent singer", I've heard Geddy live, and he is GREAT. I admit that his vocal style in the '70s was not really my cup of tea, but since he started singing in a lower register he's among the best. Period. Rush with Gabriel? Do me a favour... |
Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 10:37
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Ok, it looks pretty tied up....tension tension.....I did not make a choice by the way
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 11:43
I dont think anyone should leave, only that Geddy would be shrunken to 3 feet tall, so his voice would match his body and his hobbit tales be more believable! 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:03
| Just keep the CHEMISTRY!!! |
Posted By: blazno
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:24
Couldn't say it better myself |
Posted By: _sam_
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:50
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What's funny is that Geddy's only about five feet tall. I'm taller than him! |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:53
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No one should leave the band. But why don't we make a poll about who should leave PA? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 13:49
Holy crap, that's small. That probably explains where the high voice comes from too. ------------- http://www.soundclick.com/rosescar/ - My music! "THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:20
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Not that I dislike him but I think Neil apart from being one of the best drummers in the world is a bit too clinical and brilliantly conservative. Same with his lyrics. He should lighten up a bit and maybe the rest of the band would have more room to experiment with dynamics and space. I just think he's a little too busy, there's a time and a place for it, just not all the time. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 15:41
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 15:54
No one - RUSH are fine as they are  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:12
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^Exactly! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big"> 
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Posted By: mattuati
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:30
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Cant replace them! No way!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:54
ahhh... maybe a better question.... what could have made Rush...better.. a true keyboardist a 'better' singer a 2nd guitarist a decent lyricist hmmmm.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Rushatlantic
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:18
Excellent! That would really make Rush amazing! Right now, all they have is Geddy fooling around on a Moog ------------- if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:18
bah! i can maybe give you some points on #1, none for #2 and #3, and as for #4,  but at least we agree to love Tales from Topographic Oceans (earlier thread)...musical tastes can be a funny thing! |
Posted By: Rushatlantic
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:21
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Decent lyrics!?! Neil Perts lyrics are some of the best ever! He is a true poet and intellectual ------------- if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice |
Posted By: White Queen
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:35
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Maybe.....MAYBE.......get a new singer, but keep Geddy on bass! They just wouldn't be the same bound without all of them still there. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:44
hahahhaha... agree to disagree but in my humble experiences.. that view is one that is shared by the vast majority of Rush fans.... and by few others.... I like Rush... for the music.. the lyrics?... who listens to Rush for the lyrics?..(new poll perhaps )------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Fede
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:51
I totally agree. Bonzo was a drum master..... Surely one of the strongest and best drummers ever.
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 01:01
Hmmm I remember as being taller ... and according to celebheights.com Geddy Lee's height is 5 ft 10 in (178 cm). As for the poll question ... IMO, when a band has been together this long with the same members, its identity becomes inseperable from that of its core members ... Rush = Lee + Lifeson + Peart Take one away and you get Victor's Favourite Headache ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 01:39
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do 5 ft tall guys ever get lucky with women? maybe a lobster? just kidding, but sci-fi geeks do get on my nerves!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:51
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Posted By: stechell
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:05
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OPTION 2 PLEASE!!!
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I insist, keep The Witch just as a bassist and include a real decent singer...that would be great for all of us who would love to find a Rush Karaoke CD to enjoy their great musicianship.Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:53
hahahha.... as one who's done Karaoke in bars to Rush (can mimick 'the shrieking elf' quite well.... actually, got a standing 'O' one time hahahha though I wasn't sure if it was for my singing or the fact that I made it through the song without passing out) I like his singing.. it's ...got character.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:30
ran across this, this morning... thoughts? from a discussion between a Rush fanatic and album reviewer George Sarostin.... I would want to just concentrate everybody's attention on this paragraph from his ode to Neil Peart's powers "Let's take Hemispheres next, the source for your Greek mythology cut. To be honest, Hemispheres is not one of my favorite examples of his writing, but to flatly dismiss it, as bad Greek mythology would be to miss the point. On the outside, it is simply a story of warring Greek gods. On the next level it is a description of the heart/mind dichotomy, which is a common them in literature. Finally, on the third level, it is a tale of the dangers of extremism and the necessity for balance. Certainly the need for balance, in any aspect of our lives, is a valuable insight. Once again I would not suggest this is great poetry or philosophy but I am very willing to claim that it possesses far more value than the vast majority of rock lyrics, which tend to either be shallow and banal or completely nonsensical and incoherent." Now: I am in no way trying to deny that the heart/mind dichotomy is a common theme in literature - on the contrary, it is a WAY too common theme, that has doubtlessly been explored by at least several thousand writers, painters, musicians, and philosophers prior to Neil Peart's existence. Nor am I denying the "need for balance". The major gripe with Mr Peart doesn't happen to be with his exploring strange, or weird, or offensive, or just dumb topics. The major gripe is that Mr Peart has nothing to say that has not been said, in much better ways or at least JUST as well, before. Now of course one could say that themes of heart and mind dichotomy, individualism, etc., etc. aren't that much less complex/thought provoking than lyrical subjects explored by better rock lyricists, such as - in the prog genre - Peter Gabriel and Peter Hammill, for instance. However, the thing with rock lyrics, or, in fact, with most of the lyrics/poetry of the second part of the XXth century, is that, since they just can't help but explore already explored topics, the important thing is not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. This is the problem that usually evades Peart and suchlike defenders - the FORM in these lyrics is just as important, and arguably more important, than their SUBSTANCE. And by FORM I mean trying to find new, previously unexploited, non-cliched, non-stagnant ways of expressing these subjects. Neil Peart isn't the worst lyricist to have ever existed, but he has nothing on, say, the subtle wit and word games of 'Dancing With The Moonlit Knight'. Likewise, he hasn't got the grip and the all-out erudition of Peter Hammill, whose lyrics draw upon much more imagery and far more original, imaginative constructions, than Peart, whose lyrics often end up seeming like they come straight from an advanced course in psychology, or from one of Ayn Rand's novels for that matter. Returning to 'Hemispheres' - like I said, I don't mind being told about the heart/soul dichotomy; I DO mind being told about it in a pretentious, bombastic manner by a guy who actually does nothing but chew the same cud that has already been chewn by many an illustrious writer/poet/philosopher before him. Essentially, it's just a "poor man's course in deep thinking" - it can certainly be of some use to your average illiterate Rush fan who's too lazy to read, I dunno, Aristoteles, for instance, but who will be willing to give Neil Peart a try just because, uh, Rush rock, man. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:43
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i think the same but i will leave Lifeson in that case ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: DrWizard
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 23:49
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Rush without any of these guys is NOT RUSH!!!!! theyve been together so long and they have an instinctual quality to there playing. Geddy and neil=AMAZING rythm and Geddy and Alex are so natural together. if u havnt seen the R30 dvd WATCH IT!!!! It really shows that they have been doing this for over 30 year DON'T STOP NOW!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 00:15
ran across this, this morning... thoughts? {/QUOTE] my thought is this person is an egotistical snob who feels the need to buttress his insufferable rants with ad hominem attacks on Rush fans. i suggest he start taking two things far less seriously: the music of Rush, and himself. |
Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 00:15
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AGAIN...
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NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 11:37
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No! I won't vote too! Its like a guy without a P***S is not a guy anymore! ------------- <<Dark side of Z' Drummination>> |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 11:40
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What an asinine poll! These three guys have been together longer than any other group I know of. Rush would not be the same without each of the three members nor would they be the same if they added a fourth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:16
hahahaha...... I thought about deleting his 'attack' on Rush fans.. and your post shows me I should have. I left it because I thought it was funnier than hell. You ignored several paragraphs of valid points about Peart's lyrical abilities and focused only on his 'sucker punch' to Rush fans. Maybe I should have used the thoughts of another internet album reviewer who's views on Rush and Peart are much the same... just done diplomatically hahahah. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:25
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You have to leave Rush...
Leave them alone ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: Fede
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:34
You don't know what you're talking about |