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The Miracle
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:48 |
Rudess technically, Moore compositionally - I'll go with Kevin
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Karn Evil 9
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:10 |
I liked when Derek played with Yngwie Malmsteen on the album Attack!! The two styles worked really well together. But Jordan Rudess is a much better player, just listen to albums such as Rythem of Time, Feeding the Wheel, or Dream Theater's Octavarium to hear his technical abilities. And for anyone who thinks that that is all he can do, Listen to An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess for acoustic piano rather than electronic keyboards.
Since Rudess joined Dream Theater, their work has been alot better.
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Rising Force
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:12 |
Karn Evil 9 wrote:
I liked when Derek played with Yngwie Malmsteen on the album Attack!! The two styles worked really well together. |
You just have to hear his work with Planet X.... I wouldn't judge him on Attack!! either. Malmsteen gave him no room to show off.
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herbie53
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:12 |
After the entrance of Jordan Rudess, Dream Theater was never the same.  With 'Octavarium' the things began to be a little better, but I prefer the old days, with Moore or Sherinian...
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Empathy
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:35 |
martinprog77 wrote:
derek only plays in one album with dream theater.is really ashame because he is really good and after listen planet x and his solos albums im just love his sound[he plays like a lead guitar] and make me listen more planet x that deam theater |
Actually, I believe Sherinian played on two releases: A Change of Seasons, and Falling into Infinity.
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Petary791
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:47 |
I think Jordan Rudess is the most technically proficient but I think Kevin Moore writes better riffs.
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chamberry
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 21:19 |
The Miracle wrote:
Rudess technically, Moore compositionally - I'll go with Kevin
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Agree!
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Prog-man
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 21:26 |
It's too difficult!! Three GREAT MUSICIANS!
But:
1) Kevin
2) Jordan
3) Derek

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Guests
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 21:38 |
Kevin Live 
Derek Studio 
Jordan Both 
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Fede
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 22:29 |
I think Moore is the best but Rudess is very close to him.
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Norbert
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:44 |
This has been already done, but still Kevin Moore.
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W.Chuck
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:11 |
Well, Sherinian couldn't really broaden and his style
didn't fit really well. I don't like Rudess really much,
he is quite good technically, but I'm not fond with his
shallow compositions. I don't know how good Moore is
technicallly, but his compositions are quite good and
soulful, so my vote goes to Moore!
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MattiR
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:33 |
I don't know. I don' t listen to DT
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sleeper
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:29 |
Rudess for me, I just love his style of play on all four albums he has done with DT, Sherinian never did anything that interested me with the band and Moore was really good at composing but his technical ability doesn't match Rudess.
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 07:00 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
This has been done before.Many,many times. indeed 
But.....I will pick Moore.Rudess and Sherinian might be better technically,but Moore just outclasses both of them,imo. agreed  |
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Anguiad
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 22:14 |
Rudess is an excellent musician, both live and studio. He has an enormous style, far more notoriuos than any other member from the band. Besides, the band has a more mature and stylish sound since his appearance. His keyboards are crazy, refined and original.
With Sherinian occurs something strange. We only have one album with his talent(ACOS is out because it is no album and it was written long before his time), so there is not much to choose from. And to many it isn't the favourite DT album. BUT I think, that is why this album is so special, because Sherinian shares his musicianship only on this recording, and that is quite interesting. Maybe his style is not as notorious or cool as Rudess's, but the fact that this album is the only piece we can appreciate from his work in the band is what counts here.He even sang!
Moore was not my choice at first. But after a few more listens(as it always happens) he became not only my favourite keyboardman but my fav band member and one of the best musicians I know. Why? He has style, he writes excellent lyrics, he writes the songs, he even has his own songs in DT, something only Pettrucci also haves. His organ playing and obscure sounds and songs have won my heart(Space Dye Vest and Wait For Sleep...man!), in DT, OSI and i'm looking forward to Chroma Key. So my vote is for master Moore.
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Aspiring hope
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:55 |
Well, here I was hoping to write something that wouldn't consist on
that much for banality, but, then again, it seems the thread itself
doesn't offer that much to vary on, as some refer to. Unlike what has
been said, I think Rudess' influence to Dream Theater's sound isn't as
decisive or spontaneously radical to its maturity, since, oh well, how
long had they been active before Rudess' arrival? In theory, 10 years,
was it? Coincidental or not, one would feel a band would have time to
evolve, enhanced from past experience through erroroneous comportments
(most stark, Falling Into Infinity). Nonetheless, Jordan came to bring
innovative keyboards and his highly acknowledgeable proficiency at both
technical superiority and abated, though great composition and soul;
however, considering the keyboards to synchronise their talent with
Dream Theater, as the thread asks for, I believe Moore had given the
group a more influential presence, in songwriting and ambiental tones
of instrumental essence (although, OSI and Chroma Key display much more
attention to mood), crafting the longed feel, vibrating his musical
intellect to general recognition.
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