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Poll Question: Have you heard any of them?
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Originally posted by honganji honganji wrote:

I like Eduard Artemiev, Mikhail Chekalin, Horizont, Sepsis, Araks etc


Artemiev's music for STALKER is awesome.I'd like to get a soundtrack
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Quoting Eugene:

Stykhia - prog-metal

Kostarev Group - very nice band,I heard a lot about them,but never heard their music

Vermicelli orchestra - why prog?Because of flute or accordion?Not prog,just folk/jazzy stuff

Romislukus - ?

Disen Gage - highly recommended 80s Crimso-influenced prog

Metropolis - yes,they DO like Dream Theater...

Uncrossed - techno-death-metal.I like Opeth more

Agarta - prog-metal

One very important band, which is missed from the list, is "Arsenal" with their famoust leader Mr. Alexei Kozlov, playing sax. Prominent jazz rock / fusion band - highly recommended.
Yes,Arsenal sholud be added to Archives

Also there's a band EXTROVERT from Russia(prog-metall).Their bassist made few posts here.Just search the forum for Russian Prog (or Extrovert)


BTW,I'm a musician myself.That'll be the day when I'd be added on Archives too NotAProghead has already experienced some from my works...ask him how does it sounds like .OMG, I should put my stuff to mp3-sites...I must record it as good as I'm able...





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It's worth mentionning group called "Tsargrad".

I have one album by them, realeased in 1994 on occasion of 120th birthday of M. Mussorgskiy, and it's called "Pictures at an Exhibition. Interpretation by Tsargrad group"

This is absolutely great piece of Art, despite the fact this theme was played and interpreted by so many musicians already.

Highly recommended!
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Between early 2003 and 2005 Dutch Background Magazine has published a very extensive article about the Prog In Russia, with the help from Maxim Pshenichny (Rainy Season) and Boris Bardash (Rainy Season/Ole Lukkoye). It was orignally written by Boris Grebenshchikov and translated into English by David McConnell from Scotland. If you are interested, visit www.backgroundmagazine.nl

 
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Points: 5308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2006 at 10:17
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Are you sure that none of the bands listed above are prog???


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He meant that as for Aquarium and Piknik.BTW,they're both great...they both should be in Prog-Related genre.I'm not a huge fan of Aquarium(I prefer music over poetry...too pretentious poetry,too ordinary music.But they were good in 80s,kinda "russian Crimson"),I prefer PIKNIK much more!Serach the web for PIKNIK's site and you'll find the samples of their music there.IT IS UNIQUE!!!Edmund Shklyarsky's vocal is UNIQUE: NO COMPARINGS ALLOWED!!! And the music is close to dark/gothic rock with elemets of Crimso's music.A Musthave(especially their early works)!!!Just search for them and you won't regret!!!I must add them on Archives!!!

Well, I am 100% sure they are at least Art Rock. I could also debate on what is more progressive: to pioneer your own style outside of the borders of things considered progressive or to "be influenced by ELP and Dream Theater".

I always compared Треугольник with Pink Floyd's The Wall. It really is a "Russian wall", if you look at it musically. Now, although I'm not a huge fan of their latest, Piknik is a must for inclusion on the site. I plan to submit their information when I have more free time(read: holidays).

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Originally posted by ivansfr0st ivansfr0st wrote:

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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

 


Are you sure that none of the bands listed above are prog???


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He meant that as for Aquarium and Piknik.BTW,they're both great...they both should be in Prog-Related genre.I'm not a huge fan of Aquarium(I prefer music over poetry...too pretentious poetry,too ordinary music.But they were good in 80s,kinda "russian Crimson"),I prefer PIKNIK much more!Serach the web for PIKNIK's site and you'll find the samples of their music there.IT IS UNIQUE!!!Edmund Shklyarsky's vocal is UNIQUE: NO COMPARINGS ALLOWED!!! And the music is close to dark/gothic rock with elemets of Crimso's music.A Musthave(especially their early works)!!!Just search for them and you won't regret!!!I must add them on Archives!!!

Well, I am 100% sure they are at least Art Rock. I could also debate on what is more progressive: to pioneer your own style outside of the borders of things considered progressive or to "be influenced by ELP and Dream Theater".

I always compared Треугольник with Pink Floyd's The Wall. It really is a "Russian wall", if you look at it musically. Now, although I'm not a huge fan of their latest, Piknik is a must for inclusion on the site. I plan to submit their information when I have more free time(read: holidays).

 -- Ivan

Don't you worry, feel free to submit whatever you like. We have Beatles, ELO and plenty of other bands (leave alone the whole bunch of power metal stuff), which IMO have nothing to do with prog, all included here. It does not matter really. IMO neither Aquarium nor Piknik are remotely prog, but it is only my opinion, and, mind you, I am not inviting you to debate what is or is not prog, as these discussions do not make much sense either.

 

 



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Erik,thanks for the link on the article Grebenschikov is AKVARIUM's leader

How could I forget! - SERGEY KURYOHIN!!!

POP-MECHANIK's leader,experimental composer,the main prog-component(IMHO) in early Akvarium's music...his music for "Господин оформитель"(1988), a Soviet art-house movie is stunning...he died more than 10 years ago
RIP...
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Points: 5871 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:46
BTW - I wonder if that Possesed RAINY SEASON-Fan has any relation to this band...Show yourself,an Incognito!!! My Private Messanger is not afraid of you!!!
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Points: 747 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 05:52

Prog-metal band RAKOTH is worth mentioning here.
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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Between early 2003 and 2005 Dutch Background Magazine has published a very extensive article about the Prog In Russia, with the help from Maxim Pshenichny (Rainy Season) and Boris Bardash (Rainy Season/Ole Lukkoye). It was orignally written by Boris Grebenshchikov and translated into English by David McConnell from Scotland. If you are interested, visit www.backgroundmagazine.nl

 



always interested...  looks like a great magazine.... any kind of discount for your PA's disciples hahahah
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David Tuhmanov's album, 1975 - Sailing The Seas Of My Memory (so it can be translated) should also be mentioned here.

It is a superb prog album indeed. Lyrics are mostly verses by classical poets.
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Have anyone heard about Alfred Schnitke???

He is aclaimed Soviet Russian composer, member of infamous Union of Composers of the USSR.

I, personally, despite of being very negative towards many aspects of Soviet culture and style of living, and society in general, adore his musical compositions. Extremely complex and dark - his compositions are pure music for the mind.

When I first came across Universe Zero, the striking similarity between their works and ones by Schnitke amazed me most.

To me it is very weird that representatives of such different cultural backgrounds were composing and performing quite similar kind of music, and about in the same time - in the 80's.  

 
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Points: 5871 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 07:37
Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Have anyone heard about Alfred Schnitke???


 




Stravinskiy is also awesome RIO/avantgarde composer


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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Have anyone heard about Alfred Schnitke???


 




Stravinskiy is also awesome RIO/avantgarde composer


I beg to differ - Stravinsky is more on symphonic side.
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From Russian prog I've heard only Araks
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Originally posted by pavlus pavlus wrote:

From Russian prog I've heard only Araks

It's a pity, especially bearing in mind that Araks is not prog.
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Points: 5871 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 12:01
Another exceptional band - APRELSKY MARSH(The March of April; I mean "march" - not the month,but an action).They have released only few albums in 80s ,which were never released on CD(as far as I know).Their style was described as "Crimso meets Depeche Mode"...dunno what it means exactly - I haven't listened to them

Another one new great band(going to listen to them soon) - Genesis-inspired(ah,I like these words ! ) AEOLIAN HARP from Moscow ( free mp3 on http://www.realmusic.ru/harp )


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