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linchpinc 
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 Topic: Drama Vs. Duke
Posted: February 13 2006 at 14:28 |
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These are in mine and others opinion very good albums by two great
bands namely prog giants Yes! and Genesis! These two albums were
transitional periods for both bands. They both came out in 1980 and
both are fresh sounding albums which gave referance to what came before
and gave a nod on what was to come. So i was wondering what you thought
of these two great albums?
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Ounamahl
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 14:30 |
I chose Duke, one of my favourite Genesis albums. Drama is really good but not even close to Duke, sorry mates 
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Ounamahl
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 14:32 |
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This is an electrified fairytale
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Winter Wine
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 14:40 |
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I LOVE Duke, excellent album, but it's got a few uninteresting tracks whereas Drama just comes out like one massive Tour de Force and from start to finish has me completely captivated, stunning, with my favourites being 'Machine Messiah', 'Tempus Fugit' and oddly enough, 'Into the Lens'
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infinite adam
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 14:48 |
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Both are great albums, but Drama is significantly better.
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ANDREW
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:00 |
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DRAMA!!!
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linchpinc
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:06 |
 infinite adam wrote:
Both are great albums, but Drama is significantly better. |
 
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John Gargo
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:15 |
Duke for me... such a splendid album... immaculately produced, stellar songwriting, and Genesis' final masterpiece. Abacab had too much filler (but what an incredible title track), Genesis was too simplistic (albeit catchy), and Invisible Touch was too uneven (but still half great). I am definitely not one of those people who think Genesis ended with Hackett's departure, and I own all of their albums (aside from Calling All Stations), but in my opinion Duke is in many respects the last hurrah for the band. Never again would they release such a complete album statement and in my opinion, it even tops a few of their earlier albums (heresy, I know, but it's my opinion).
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Progger
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:31 |
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Mr Class & Qual
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:36 |
These are two such examples of albums by artists who at the time were in their death throes. People subconsciously like to believe these albums were/are great because they just can't accept the fact that their favourite bands have in reality "thrown in the towel". The truth ladies and gentlemen is that these albums suck. 
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linchpinc
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:09 |
Mr Class & Qual wrote:
These are two such examples of albums by
artists who at the time were in their death throes. People
subconsciously like to believe these albums were/are great because they
just can't accept the fact that their favourite bands have in reality
"thrown in the towel". The truth ladies and gentlemen is that these
albums suck. |
These two bands were definitely not thrown in the towel especially in
the case of Yes. drama is an excellent album and they have produced
good and great albums since namely 90125 and Magnification
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:11 |
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I think Drama is much better. The songwriting is much closer to the older Yes, rather than the new Genesis line-up's writing resembling nothing of their past.
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dralan
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:19 |
Both are decent albums, but neither are Yes or Genesis at the top of their game. I chose Duke. Besides "Misunderstanding" and "Turn it On Again", it still has all the trademark classic Genesis schtick, tho you can kind of hear in hindsight they were ready to move on to other things (i.e. top 40 radio), its not as inspired as some of their earlier stuff.
"Drama" has some killer music on it but Trevor Horn comes off like a poor-mans Jon Anderson, and the band was having major personnel and artistic issues at the time, so Id rate it just average.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:31 |
I don't like Drama very much. One of my least favourite Yes-albums.
Duke is a very good Genesis record, though. Lots of classic tracks and innvative and energetic playing, and very emotional.
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:33 |
Ooo, this is one of those tricky polls! I like Genesis much better than Yes, but as to those two albums, I choose Drama. That hits somewhat of a high period for Yes, and lower period for Genesis.
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:49 |
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Drama is a very good album. Duke has only two good songs, the rest is very poor compared to what Genesis could do.
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:56 |
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Duke, its the zenith of 80s Genesis
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Bj-1
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 17:19 |
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Can't really decide. Both equally as good.
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Mongo
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 20:06 |
Drama never made the transition to cd for me.
Duke!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:08 |
John Gargo wrote:
Duke for me... such a splendid album... immaculately produced, stellar songwriting, and Genesis' final masterpiece. Abacab had too much filler (but what an incredible title track), Genesis was too simplistic (albeit catchy), and Invisible Touch was too uneven (but still half great). I am definitely not one of those people who think Genesis ended with Hackett's departure, and I own all of their albums (aside from Calling All Stations), but in my opinion Duke is in many respects the last hurrah for the band. Never again would they release such a complete album statement and in my opinion, it even tops a few of their earlier albums (heresy, I know, but it's my opinion).
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couldn't have said it better myself
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