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Poll Question: Wich one is better?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2006 at 20:26

Images and Words.

I still prefer Riverside's Out of Myself to Second Life Syndrome,but SLS is growing on me.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 03:10
I haven't heard much of SLS but I hardly believe, that it could be better than IAW, one of the most influential albums in my life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 08:44
Originally posted by patomtz patomtz wrote:

Second life syndrome is in 2nd place, images and words in 3rd! do you really think that SLS is better than I&W? wich one is better for you?

IMAGES & WORDS is surely the best prog metal album ever, even if i prefere Scenes From A Memory!!!

It must be the in the first place!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 13:30

Now that a solid portion of this thread has been discussing Planet X, I will give my input. They are incredible, incredible musicians. There is no denying all of their abilities. Their compositions are highly technical, both in speed and meter. They are always playing in ridiculous time signatures and patterns, and I appreciate what they do for sure. Planet X probably did one up Dream Theater with those, but they hardly show any emotion. As fascinating as the music itself is, I have minimal to no emotional response to it. Even when Dream Theater is doing highly technical, speedy things, they invoke emotion into it. There is never a dull moment. There is unarguable ingenuity in MoonBabies, but beyond that and a couple of hooks, there is a void.

And as for the poll topic, while I can see a handful of albums beating Images & Words, Second Life Syndrome is not one of them, at least not right now.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 14:29
^true dat.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 17:33
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

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Planet X - Moonbabies is the real #1. It's the best album of the past 20 years, IMO.

I think that album sucks ass.

Images and Words for me.



I think Images and Words sucks ass. Planet X ass rapes DT.
 

Planet X with all its w**king and no emotion?



The emotion comes out in their furious chops!

C'mon now, tech. wise, they destroy DT.
 

McAlpine plays better than JP? Derek Sherinian plays better than JR? Mr. Donati I'll give to you, but JP and JR own McAlpine's mindless w**king and Sherinian's whatever that is!



MacAlpine plays better than JP, absolutely! More versatile and more chops. Plus, MacAlpine's solo career is much better. Petrucci's solo album is weak! Rudess does take Sherinian, but Larue takes Myung! 3-1, Planet X. Let's not forget that Billy Sheehan, Tom Kennedy, Jimmy Johnson, and Brett Garsed have played for Planet X, and Allan Holdsworth is going to be on the next album!
 

Can you explain to me why McAlpine is a better player.  I've never heard McAlpine pull of solos like Home and despite the lack of depth in composition, The Glass Prison has some ripping solos from Petrucci.  I don't think McAlpine is as good of a player as Petrucci.  Petrucci has unrivaled clarity to his playing.  His versitility is definately there too.  Just look at the contrast between songs like Goodnight Kiss and The Test That Stumpted Them All.  Then look at the contrast between An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess and Liquid Tension Experiment II.  I don't think LaRue or Tom Kennedy can take Myung.  Myung has excellent tapping skills to compliment his creative rythymn playing.  I didn't here Kennedy do anything that was beyond essential Jazz skills.  Kennedy is a great player, but he doesn't show the complete chops and creativity that John Myung does.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2006 at 18:23
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by Rising Force Rising Force wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Rising Force Rising Force wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Rising Force Rising Force wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Rising Force Rising Force wrote:

Planet X - Moonbabies is the real #1. It's the best album of the past 20 years, IMO.

I think that album sucks ass.

Images and Words for me.



I think Images and Words sucks ass. Planet X ass rapes DT.
 

Planet X with all its w**king and no emotion?



The emotion comes out in their furious chops!

C'mon now, tech. wise, they destroy DT.
 

McAlpine plays better than JP? Derek Sherinian plays better than JR? Mr. Donati I'll give to you, but JP and JR own McAlpine's mindless w**king and Sherinian's whatever that is!



MacAlpine plays better than JP, absolutely! More versatile and more chops. Plus, MacAlpine's solo career is much better. Petrucci's solo album is weak! Rudess does take Sherinian, but Larue takes Myung! 3-1, Planet X. Let's not forget that Billy Sheehan, Tom Kennedy, Jimmy Johnson, and Brett Garsed have played for Planet X, and Allan Holdsworth is going to be on the next album!
 

Can you explain to me why McAlpine is a better player.  I've never heard McAlpine pull of solos like Home and despite the lack of depth in composition, The Glass Prison has some ripping solos from Petrucci.  I don't think McAlpine is as good of a player as Petrucci.  Petrucci has unrivaled clarity to his playing.  His versitility is definately there too.  Just look at the contrast between songs like Goodnight Kiss and The Test That Stumpted Them All.  Then look at the contrast between An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess and Liquid Tension Experiment II.  I don't think LaRue or Tom Kennedy can take Myung.  Myung has excellent tapping skills to compliment his creative rythymn playing.  I didn't here Kennedy do anything that was beyond essential Jazz skills.  Kennedy is a great player, but he doesn't show the complete chops and creativity that John Myung does.



If you think Petrucci is better, then you haven't heard much of MacAlpine's solo stuff. MacAlpine has done probably everything Petrucci has and more. He is more experienced in jazz and classical, where as Petrucci is mainly prog. You want contrast, then compare CAB (jazz fusion) to his early solo work (neo classical metal) to Planet X (prog metal/jazz fusion). The man has many dimensions in his playing, and he has proved himself more than Petrucci as a solo artist. Maximum Security, Chromacity, and Evolution are solid albums. MacAlpine has plenty of ripping solos too, like The Noble Savage and Quarter to Midnight. And no, Tony does not only shred. The last solo of Ingotus Per Ignotium is one of the most beautiful, melodic solos I've ever heard.  Not only that, he's a keyboard virtuoso too, as Donati will tell you. He can play all of Chopin's Etudes, and he does some really sick keyboard/guitar shredding duels with himself on Chromacity, like especially on Christmas Island. I'm not familiar enough with Myung or LaRue to compare them, but my friend that's going to Berklee rates LaRue higher than him, and he really knows his stuff (I mean REALLY knows his stuff), and he's not biased for any of them either, so I'll take his word for it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 14:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 23:59
"Images and Words"... the album that ignited my life as a prog metal follower.
Riverside is awesome, too. I really liked SLS but the first time is the one you never forget
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:21
I believe that "Images And Words" is a way lot better than "Second Life Syndrom", and I have no doubt about that.
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