Prog-Metal 2nd and 3rd position
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Topic: Prog-Metal 2nd and 3rd position
Posted By: patomtz
Subject: Prog-Metal 2nd and 3rd position
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:22
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Second life syndrome is in 2nd place, images and words in 3rd! do you really think that SLS is better than I&W? wich one is better for you? ------------- I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable 
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Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:24
| Planet X - Moonbabies is the real #1. It's the best album of the past 20 years, IMO. |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:24
And it will remain so for the next billion years. |
Rising Force wrote:Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:25
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I think that album sucks ass. Images and Words for me. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:27
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Dream Theater's Images and Words is a far better album and has done far more for the genre. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:29
FOR THE NEXT BILLION YEARS, I TELL YA! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:41
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NO FANBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I havnt heard Second Life Syndrome but they would have had to go some to beat I&W ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:46
Planet X with all its w**king and no emotion? |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 16:49
The emotion comes out in their furious chops! C'mon now, tech. wise, they destroy DT. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:12
McAlpine plays better than JP? Derek Sherinian plays better than JR? Mr. Donati I'll give to you, but JP and JR own McAlpine's mindless w**king and Sherinian's whatever that is! |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:14
2nd and 3rd ???
 bizarre  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:21
I'm going to agree with Flossy. Dream Theater's technical chops definately beat Planet X's. Petrucci has a one up on McAlpine as far as clarity goes. Rudess is an amazing musician and as good as Sherinian is, Rudess is still better. Myung well, I think he's much better and more creative than Tom Kennedy. -------------
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:25
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I love my poles, but SLS didn't crush me as hard as I&W did.. My fav prog album of all-time! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:30
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I&W ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:37
MacAlpine plays better than JP, absolutely! More versatile and more chops. Plus, MacAlpine's solo career is much better. Petrucci's solo album is weak! Rudess does take Sherinian, but Larue takes Myung! 3-1, Planet X. Let's not forget that Billy Sheehan, Tom Kennedy, Jimmy Johnson, and Brett Garsed have played for Planet X, and Allan Holdsworth is going to be on the next album! |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:45
McAlpine is great, but not the caliber of John Petrucci More versatile you say? And Planet X have far weaker compositions then DT... Portnoy and Petrucci are far better at composing interesting music than Sherinian and co at metal/fusion (and as Flossy wrote, its basically bout w**king +Planet X have a damn unstable lineup (and when comparing BANDS DT get another point), but each time its all bout speed etc... And btw... LTE 1 owns Moonbabies... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:50
Ugh, I can't stand that album... that kind of thing just isn't for me. Although, looking at your name, I guess it makes sense that you like it. As for the best prog metal, I'm not quite sure because I'm not a really big fan of the genre. It was the one that got me into prog, but there aren't many prog metal bands that I've really gotten into beyond the first ones I liked because most of the ones I've listened to have seemed very unoriginal as of late. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: troy
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:52
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Riverside is more progressive, but I gotta go with I&W for the better record. ------------- SUNSET IS AN ANGEL WEEPING HOLDING OUT A BLOODY SWORD NO MATTER HOW I SQUINT I CANNOT MAKE OUT WHAT IT IS POINTING TOWARD |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:54
I love Images and words its up there with Shadow Gallery`s tyranny in my opinion , but I still haven't heard , Second Life Syndrome and I am now starting to think I`m missing out so I will make it my next CD I get, For this reason I didn`t vote (as tempted as I was in voting for Images and words) but I refuse to be without honer and vote against something I haven't heard 
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Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 19:50
Absolutety! He did jazz fusion with CAB, jazz fusion/prog metal with Planet X, prog metal with Ring of Fire, and neo classical metal with his solo work, Project Driver, and Mark Boals. [qoute="Ed_the_Dead"]And btw... LTE 1 owns Moonbabies...  [/QUOTE]Never! Planet X are the kings of the universe! They even wrote a song about it! And it's probably a better than most songs DT ever wrote. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 20:26
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Images and Words. I still prefer Riverside's Out of Myself to Second Life Syndrome,but SLS is growing on me. -------------  |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 03:10
| I haven't heard much of SLS but I hardly believe, that it could be better than IAW, one of the most influential albums in my life. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 08:44
IMAGES & WORDS is surely the best prog metal album ever, even if i prefere Scenes From A Memory!!! It must be the in the first place!!! |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 13:30
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Now that a solid portion of this thread has been discussing Planet X, I will give my input. They are incredible, incredible musicians. There is no denying all of their abilities. Their compositions are highly technical, both in speed and meter. They are always playing in ridiculous time signatures and patterns, and I appreciate what they do for sure. Planet X probably did one up Dream Theater with those, but they hardly show any emotion. As fascinating as the music itself is, I have minimal to no emotional response to it. Even when Dream Theater is doing highly technical, speedy things, they invoke emotion into it. There is never a dull moment. There is unarguable ingenuity in MoonBabies, but beyond that and a couple of hooks, there is a void. And as for the poll topic, while I can see a handful of albums beating Images & Words, Second Life Syndrome is not one of them, at least not right now. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 14:29
| ^true dat. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 17:33
Can you explain to me why McAlpine is a better player. I've never heard McAlpine pull of solos like Home and despite the lack of depth in composition, The Glass Prison has some ripping solos from Petrucci. I don't think McAlpine is as good of a player as Petrucci. Petrucci has unrivaled clarity to his playing. His versitility is definately there too. Just look at the contrast between songs like Goodnight Kiss and The Test That Stumpted Them All. Then look at the contrast between An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess and Liquid Tension Experiment II. I don't think LaRue or Tom Kennedy can take Myung. Myung has excellent tapping skills to compliment his creative rythymn playing. I didn't here Kennedy do anything that was beyond essential Jazz skills. Kennedy is a great player, but he doesn't show the complete chops and creativity that John Myung does. -------------
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 18:23
If you think Petrucci is better, then you haven't heard much of MacAlpine's solo stuff. MacAlpine has done probably everything Petrucci has and more. He is more experienced in jazz and classical, where as Petrucci is mainly prog. You want contrast, then compare CAB (jazz fusion) to his early solo work (neo classical metal) to Planet X (prog metal/jazz fusion). The man has many dimensions in his playing, and he has proved himself more than Petrucci as a solo artist. Maximum Security, Chromacity, and Evolution are solid albums. MacAlpine has plenty of ripping solos too, like The Noble Savage and Quarter to Midnight. And no, Tony does not only shred. The last solo of Ingotus Per Ignotium is one of the most beautiful, melodic solos I've ever heard. Not only that, he's a keyboard virtuoso too, as Donati will tell you. He can play all of Chopin's Etudes, and he does some really sick keyboard/guitar shredding duels with himself on Chromacity, like especially on Christmas Island. I'm not familiar enough with Myung or LaRue to compare them, but my friend that's going to Berklee rates LaRue higher than him, and he really knows his stuff (I mean REALLY knows his stuff), and he's not biased for any of them either, so I'll take his word for it. |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 14:02
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I & W ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: ambriz
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 23:59
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"Images and Words"... the album that ignited my life as a prog metal follower. Riverside is awesome, too. I really liked SLS but the first time is the one you never forget  ------------- Progressive music, a kind of life. |
Posted By: calvin
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:21
| I believe that "Images And Words" is a way lot better than "Second Life Syndrom", and I have no doubt about that. |