Black Metal

Equimanthorn wrote: I make black metal, and i would like to hear what people think about this subject. What countries do you think best produced this music. France, Norway, Sweden,Germany, Poland, U.S, Ect... Different styles you particularly like... Best bands..... Proggers, Compare Robert Wyatts Rock Rottom and other obscure european prog to modern day American Black Metal such as Xathstur or Leviathian and you may be suprised at the length of these guys influences. I find a lot more in Death and Black metal that tickles the same funny bone from all this 70's prog, but still cant stand the DT or any other "prog Metal".

I used to be heavily into BM of all shapes and sizes, from Darkthrone to Cradle Of Filth, but I hardly listen to it anymore, I guess I just got tired of its atmosphere. I sometimes come back to Satyricon's "Rebel Extravaganza", Mayhem's "A Grand Declaration of War" and Immortal's "At the Heart of Winter", but I don't really know whether they can still be classified as black metal. I'm vaguely aware there's a black metal reneissance going on nowadays, and the USA is a part of it, but it's on the periphery of my interests. I heard the names Xathstur and Leviathan but haven't heard their music. The only newer bands I've checked out lately were Krieg and Averse Sefira, but I liked neither. I do mean to give Primordial and Negura Bunget (spelling?) a try, however.

As for the prog influences... well, I guess there must be some in ABSU, but I haven't really heard their music, I only know Proscriptor is a big 70s' prog fan. Hell, maybe I do need to listen to some ABSU, then. Also maybe it's just me, but there is or was a 70s hard-rock vibe to Gorgoroth. 

I generally like death metal much more and I'm really getting into doom metal, especially of the ultra slow and grinding variety (like Burning Witch, for example). I also love prog metal, DT and the whole cheesy, feelgood lot included. 

Anyway, don't let the 'slow' (being VERY diplomatic here) start to your thread bring you down, there's some black metal fans here, like Logos, for example, you'll just have to wait for them to show up. 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Blacksword wrote: erlenst wrote: I listened a bit to black metal when I was younger, but to be brutally honest, I find it incredibly pathetic in every way these days. I consider it music for immature people really, no matter how snobby that sounds. Exactly the same for me. When I was in my teens I listened to a bit of Venom, but even then it was only really for comedy value. I dont really understand what grown men get out of playing/listening to that music. It's just plain silly. I like to listen to it once in a while ... but I have no real connection to this style. I DO like the more experimental forms of Black Metal - like Ulver, Unexpect, Vintersorg.

Completely forgot about those - haven't heard Ulver yet, but Arcturus' "La Masquerade Infernale" is very, very cool, and that seems to be just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm not that big a fan of Dark/Black/Death metal, its all just a bit too extreem for me.

BTW avestin, where is the Nrutral Zone

Manunkind wrote: Equimanthorn wrote: I make black metal, and i would like to hear what people think about this subject. What countries do you think best produced this music. France, Norway, Sweden,Germany, Poland, U.S, Ect... Different styles you particularly like... Best bands..... Proggers, Compare Robert Wyatts Rock Rottom and other obscure european prog to modern day American Black Metal such as Xathstur or Leviathian and you may be suprised at the length of these guys influences. I find a lot more in Death and Black metal that tickles the same funny bone from all this 70's prog, but still cant stand the DT or any other "prog Metal". I used to be heavily into BM of all shapes and sizes, from Darkthrone to Cradle Of Filth, but I hardly listen to it anymore, I guess I just got tired of its atmosphere. I sometimes come back to Satyricon's "Rebel Extravaganza", Mayhem's "A Grand Declaration of War" and Immortal's "At the Heart of Winter", but I don't really know whether they can still be classified as black metal. I'm vaguely aware there's a black metal reneissance going on nowadays, and the USA is a part of it, but it's on the periphery of my interests. I heard the names Xathstur and Leviathan but haven't heard their music. The only newer bands I've checked out lately were Krieg and Averse Sefira, but I liked neither. I do mean to give Primordial and Negura Bunget (spelling?) a try, however. As for the prog influences... well, I guess there must be some in ABSU, but I haven't really heard their music, I only know Proscriptor is a big 70s' prog fan. Hell, maybe I do need to listen to some ABSU, then. Also maybe it's just me, but there is or was a 70s hard-rock vibe to Gorgoroth.  I generally like death metal much more and I'm really getting into doom metal, especially of the ultra slow and grinding variety (like Burning Witch, for example). I also love prog metal, DT and the whole cheesy, feelgood lot included.  Anyway, don't let the 'slow' (being VERY diplomatic here) start to your thread bring you down, there's some black metal fans here, like Logos, for example, you'll just have to wait for them to show up.

You should really give Negura Bunget (sp?)  Yeah, I forgot how to spell it.  Anywho..I've got one of their albums, and it's actually really good stuff.  I consider it fairly complex compared to a lot of bm bands out there..and long songs too..9+ minutes. 

I pretty much like black metal from Europe...the very few US black metal bands I've heard sucked.  For instance, Night Conquers Day   It's kind of funny how they praise Opeth in their booklet, but when you listen to the music......heh.  I still listen to black metal on occasion.  I'm sometimes up for some Abigor or Burzum.  I'll always have a love for black metal..for me, it paved the way to prog.