Jesus Christ Super Star

 i dont know.... im confused

I'm not trying to make a case for including ALW, but JATTCDC remains the first rock opera - you can't take that away from it, simply because it was the first operetta (really) to be based on rock music.

Many schools perform it - I was musical director for the performance at my school, and loved playing the music. That doesn't make "Joseph..." Prog, but it is very progressive, and includes a good balance of Prog elements - classical influences, ROCK, unusual time signatures (e.g. 7/4), modulations to different keys and so forth.

JCS is a whole new ball game - it's a fully-fledged opera with recitative and aria in the traditional sense, an epic story (you can't get much more epic!), and the music and constructions are far more sophisticated than "Joseph". It's also in the right era - so why not Prog Rock? I can't think of a single GOOD reason, apart from loathing ALW for the trite musicals he's come up with since.

"Variations" is a Prog Rock album of the highest order.

But can you imagine "Evita" or "Cats" in the Archives?

It's a tough one, I agree - but don't just shoot "Joseph...", "JCS" and "Variations" down in flames unless you can some up with a better reason than "They're by ALW...".

"Progressive," re music, has outlived its utility, and become meaningless.

Please see my last post on page 1.

We have prog folk, prog metal -- where's the prog punk, prog country, prog disco?

Some country artists (not the crap on the radio) make very involved, intelligent music, you know.

The Clash certainly progressed....

Where will it end? (It won't, of course.)

Again -- the word "progressive" as a term to categorize music, is so vague as to be all but meaningless. We have stretched the original sense of the word well beyond the breaking point, and out of all recognition.

Once more: At the very least, we need to go to straight numerical ratings -- dump the words that accompany the individual star ratings. How can an album that is only "prog related" (all western music, or at least all rock, is "prog related") be "a masterpiece of progressive music"? As it stands now, because of those words, many great albums here cannot justifiably qualify for the highest marks as a piece of art.

WTF is "progressive music?"

(Purely subjective, that's what!)

Oh well -- shouting into a hurricane again...um de dum de dum....

BTW, for the record, the original JCS was NOT a movie soundtrack! The movie came later, with different artists & musicians involved.

Edit: -- whoops! This point was already made! Sorry.

"Progressive rock" does not really exist -- there's just rock (and now jazz, folk, world, metal....)

I say it again: GoodMusic Archives is what we are now.

Certif1ed wrote: Almost the same goes for "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat" - the first ever Rock Opera (it beat "Tommy" by a few months...).

Please tell that's not true..................

We had to watch that in band class and it hurt my brain.

Which part of that is in 7/4?