Triumph?! Are you kidding me?!?

"So, what kind of music do you listen to?" 
"Well, ya know, progressive rock.  "Oh really!  Who?" 
"Well you know, the usual, Pink Floyd and, well ya know, Triumph."


Triumph's addition to this site is ridiculous.   What an oversight. 

Gedhead wrote: "So, what kind of music do you listen to?"  "Well, ya know, progressive rock.  "Oh really!  Who?"  "Well you know, the usual, Pink Floyd and, well ya know, Triumph." Triumph's addition to this site is ridiculous.   What an oversight.

Or maybe like this:

"So, what kind of music do you listen to?"

"Well, you know, proto-prog."

"Really, who?"

"Well, you know the usual, Journey, Styx, Triumph. They're very proto, if you know what I mean."

meurglysIII wrote: bluetailfly wrote: Gedhead wrote: "So, what kind of music do you listen to?"  "Well, ya know, progressive rock.  "Oh really!  Who?"  "Well you know, the usual, Pink Floyd and, well ya know, Triumph." Triumph's addition to this site is ridiculous.   What an oversight.  Or maybe like this: "So, what kind of music do you listen to?" "Well, you know, proto-prog." "Really, who?" "Well, you know the usual, Journey, Styx, Triumph. They're very proto, if you know what I mean." It's funny that you say that because Journey WAS prog and more prog than all the other bands you mentioned. I don't care what anyone says.  Just listen to their first album if you don't believe me.  (Also, I'm not in anyway suggesting that Journey be on here because most of their albums aren't prog at all.)

Well, I agree with you that Journey's first couple of albums could be easily be considered prog-related, if not neo-prog, definitely much more so than Triumph.  "Of a Lifetime" had a progressive feel on their first album, and "Kohoutek" is almost a jazz fusion tune.  Plus they had very prog-appropriate artwork on their first two album covers .

But everything they did after 1975 cancels all that out and they should never be allowed to occupy archive space here.

Hmmm, a moderately prog band who managed to undergo a complete transformation into a corporate shill schlepping glossed over pop tunes under the guise of intelligent music......  Another band from the east side of the Atlantic pond comes to mind here too.  Maybe we should have a new category - "used-ta'-be-prog" .

BUMP

YES on front cover of Rolling Stone:

Last months copy though...

 I like Triumph - well at least Just A Game and Allied Forces. And, way back when, I got to Triumph via Rush and Kansas and uhhh Boston. It was all the same to me then, why would someone who listens to Magic Power not then be intrigued by Tom Sawyer and by extension intrigued by, say, something from Drama which might lead to CTTE and thence to Selling England and years later you end up with a sad old git like.... me!

Bands related to prog is a fine idea - Zep, Queen, Triumph, Boston etc etc all had moments where their classic prog influences leaked out. Take Boston's Foreplay/Long Time. I distinctly remember, as a youngster, asking an older friend if he knew any other bands who had lots of keyboards like that. He pointed me at Yes and Genesis. Twenty years later....

Bit like a drug dealer really. "So kid, you like that little bit of Hammond organ do ya? Try this on for size. What is it? Only Close to the Edge. It'll blow your mind. Whaty a rush!"

Triumph is not as bad as most of you make it to be8

They were quite inventive for a while (until allied forces ) and have a few prog tracks most notably the three part The City. But I was a little taken aback at first about their inclusion, but seeing some completely absurd inclusions of late , Triumph has a case.

I mean Legendary Pink dot , Super Furry animals , Mercury Rev...............

But let's play it inclusive than exclusive! They are in to entice eventual Triumph fans to take notice of prog!

This was on a different thread, but I see now that it belongs here (edited somewhat):

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Posted: January 07 2006 at 07:38 | IP Logged Tony R wrote: ClemofNazareth wrote: I personally would be willing to trade Triumph's spot for Rainbow. I'd trade Triumph's spot for Abba,and I used to like Triumph..... Don't start me on about Triumph being on the archive.... Rainbow should be here under Prog-Related.Not sure they've anything to do with Prog-Metal,except maybe thematically. Here's a few more Triumph gems that clearly make the case for their presence here <not!>.  These guys are nothing more than walking hard-ons, as near as I can tell.  And most of these lines wouldn't even work in a singles bar... "When you turn on your love light you burn me, but it's alright 'cause I'm hooked on you." "Are we victims of circumstance when our destinies collide?" "The shivers in your fingers tell no lies, I know I drive you crazy" "I can't keep givin' you it all, not if you're gonna' tease me" "I've always wondered what it would be like, just you and me baby" "Take me, I'm yours for just one night" "Let me come and lay down beside you, open up your heart" "If only everybody wished the same things that I do, there would be hope for me and you" "I know how to treat a lady who knows how to treat her man" ""Don't hold me up girl, don't waste my precious time - won't you lay it on the line"

Tony R wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: bluetailfly wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: Triumph......the BS just doesn't stop piling up. This proto prog/prog related classification is a load of crap.Almost any band could be added under prog related.I think it is watering down the best prog rock resource on the net,and don't really like it. Whoa, dude, you don't have to sugar-coat it. Just tell us what you really think... And I was holding back........ If sopmeone's searching for Triumph on a search engine and is lead to their page on Prog Archives and is told;"If you like Triumph you might also like to try Rush and Dream Theater" then surely we have achieved something!

Your intentions are good, but really, how many people do you think are going to be searching for Triumph? It would make sense to add more current bands that people might actually be looking for rather than this kind of thing. What about Coheed and Cambria, for example? I don't like them, but their inclusion would no doubt bring a ton of people to the site and introduce them to prog, but for some reason Triumph has been added instead. It doesn't make any sense to me...

I've got a great idea! How about some of the nay-sayers try listening to Triumph before blasting it. The whole second side of Thunder Seven , thinking back to my cassette days, deserves some prog consideration. They are not prog per say but I also think that what is prog is in the eye of the beholder.