An Airline Passenger’s Story

The Doctor wrote: Nor have I been terrorized by the US government.  Sure there was that whole thing with the fbi regarding my dungeon of love, but that was resolved.

 

stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Wow, I never thought you could actually write something so stupid, ignorant, and completely biased, but here I am reading it. Wow, I never thought you could actually write something so stupid, ignorant, and completely biased, but here I am reading it.......Stonebeard!!! Yes, what was I thinking!!!! Americans did indeed cause all those terrorist bombings in England and Spain!!! The American people brought 9/11 upon themselves.

Well Stone, Tony is what I call a victim of gray-brainwashing. People like him look at things through gray eyeballs. To them, there's no good or evil. No good guys or bad guys. Everything is nuanced. We must learn to understand the actions of terrorists and sympathize with them. Everytime an atrocity is committed, they try to find some "good" in it. And of course vice versa.

It's really a very confusing mental state. But they call it an open mind. But in reality it's basically having no direction at all.

But to blame America for terrorist attacks on our allies soil is dodging blame.

Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Yes, what was I thinking!!!! Americans did indeed cause all those terrorist bombings in England and Spain!!! The American people brought 9/11 upon themselves. Now you are using your brains......see the truth in those statements....... Would it not be fair then to say that the English brought the bombings upon themselves then? The British govt did yes.It was not acting on the will of the people-the majority of Brits were against our involvement unlike our American cousins....

It's not my fault if there are some brain-washed, Bush-following-to-the-death, manics who will follow the President and his propaganda until the very end of the world. This is not my fault, nor is the war. And remember, those who supported the war, or at least most of them who were so unlucky as to fall under the hypnotic spell of the White House and CIA propaganda ("false intelligence") actually believed their country was going to be attacked again.

You must remember, two planes didn't crash into London and killl nearly 3,000 of your citizens.

stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Yes, what was I thinking!!!! Americans did indeed cause all those terrorist bombings in England and Spain!!! The American people brought 9/11 upon themselves. Now you are using your brains......see the truth in those statements....... Would it not be fair then to say that the English brought the bombings upon themselves then? The British govt did yes.It was not acting on the will of the people-the majority of Brits were against our involvement unlike our American cousins.... It's not my fault if there are some brain-washed, Bush-following-to-the-death, manics who will follow the President and his propaganda until the very end of the world. This is not my fault, nor is the war. And remember, those who supported the war, or at least most of them who were so unlucky as to fall under the hypnotic spell of the White House and CIA propaganda ("false intelligence") actually believed their country was going to be attacked again. You must remember, two planes didn't crash into London and killl nearly 3,000 of your citizens.

 

We've all suffered from terrorist atrocities,I live 13 miles from Manchester and 20 miles from Warrington....200 miles from London

Nor should we forget whose citizens were the chief benefactors of the IRA ....

 

Oh and by the way - happy new year to one and all -peace.

Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Yes, what was I thinking!!!! Americans did indeed cause all those terrorist bombings in England and Spain!!! The American people brought 9/11 upon themselves. Now you are using your brains......see the truth in those statements....... Would it not be fair then to say that the English brought the bombings upon themselves then? The British govt did yes.It was not acting on the will of the people-the majority of Brits were against our involvement unlike our American cousins.... It's not my fault if there are some brain-washed, Bush-following-to-the-death, manics who will follow the President and his propaganda until the very end of the world. This is not my fault, nor is the war. And remember, those who supported the war, or at least most of them who were so unlucky as to fall under the hypnotic spell of the White House and CIA propaganda ("false intelligence") actually believed their country was going to be attacked again. You must remember, two planes didn't crash into London and killl nearly 3,000 of your citizens. We've all suffered from terrorist atrocities,I live 13 miles from Manchester and 20 miles from Warrington....200 miles from London Nor should we forget whose citizens were the chief benefactors of the IRA ....

I realize this, but you're not getting my point. Americans were fortunate to live for half a cnetury without any attacks on their soil. But when the attack came, it was atrocious. Nearly 3,000 killed in one day! I can't speak for myself because I was young (still am) and ignorant, but I'm sure we were in a state of shock and were just looking for some guidence. Sadly, it came in the form of the manipulative Bush administration, who turned that need for guidence into power he could weild massivly.

Now, I won't donwnplay the IRA attack that were continuously happening in England, but I believe they prepared you for attacks and helped you realize that bad things can happen. In other words, you were on guard, whereas we were not.

Stoney??? It never occurred to you that one day someone would strike back....

You hit someone and there's a good chance that there'll be repercussions.It is something we learn very early in life,so should never be a shock.....

You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3,000 miles away
3,000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
We zap and maim
With the bravery of being out of range

Tony R wrote: Stoney??? It never occurred to you that one day someone would strike back.... You hit someone and there's a good chance that there'll be repercussions.It is something we learn very early in life,so should never be a shock..... You hit the target And win the game From bars 3,000 miles away 3,000 miles away We play the game With the bravery of being out of range We zap and maim With the bravery of being out of range

I can't answer for my government.

Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Tony R wrote: stonebeard wrote: Yes, what was I thinking!!!! Americans did indeed cause all those terrorist bombings in England and Spain!!! The American people brought 9/11 upon themselves. Now you are using your brains......see the truth in those statements.......www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley22 .gif" onclick="AddSmileyIcon'smileys/smiley22.gif'"> Would it not be fair then to say that the English brought the bombings upon themselves then? The British govt did yes.It was not acting on the will of the people-the majority of Brits were against our involvement unlike our American cousins....

But sadly, enough of the British public voted for Blair, or stayed away
from the polls, to keep his tawdry government in power for at least
another four years.