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TheLamb 
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 Topic: Relayer VS. Tales from Topographic Oceans
Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:55 |
Which album do you prefer?
I'd have to go with Tales... It's a hard listen... Takes a while of getting used to, but all great things do. Relayer is good too though... What's your opinion?
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kingwingding
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:03 |
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i like relayer alot more tales is a little spacey for my taste
i just wish wakeman was still in for relayer ,it would of kicked much ass
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zabriskiepoint
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:08 |
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Relayer, because Gates of Delirium (with close to the edge), are the best songs Yes ever made, in my opinion.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:23 |
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Relayer is pretty good, though not quite up to CTTE and nowhere near The Yes Album.
TFTO is bloody awful. See my review for further vitriol.
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Ty1020
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:34 |
 kingwingding wrote:
i like relayer alot more tales is a little spacey for my taste
i just wish wakeman was still in for relayer ,it would of kicked much ass |
No way, Moraz is what made Relayer such a great record. Don't get me
wrong, I love Wakeman, but if he was still onboard for Relayer then the
album would have been completely different and we'd be without the
masterpiece that it is.
As for the thread's original question... I really can't choose, both albums are amazing.
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walrus333
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:36 |
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I prefer Relayer though Tales is amazing, Relayer sort of grabs you right from the get go, Tales is a bit of a hard listen
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:41 |
Tales is an amazing piece of work that takes a long time to get used to...., but its still better than Relayer!
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herbie53
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:56 |
Tales is the most tedious and boring work of the 70's Yes albuns. Who want to buy the mine? Is the remastered version, I tried listen many times, but ...   
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Losendos
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:56 |
Haven't ever liked Tales much and always loved relayer
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How wonderful to be so profound
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:08 |
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I like both and got into both at the same time.
I consider the trio of CTTE, TFTO, and Relayer to be some of the finest music written by any band.
TFTO tends to get a bit boring with "The Remembering" and during the
long scales during "The Ancients," so as an album Relayer would
probably best TFTO since it doesn't drag on as much. Still, I
much prefer "Revealing Science of God" to anything else Yes has ever
done.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:09 |
I think relayer kind of regained the spark that was lost in the album before it, i love relayer, it's a fantastic album, i've never really liked tales.... i understand that some people really enjoy it though and i respect that, and to be honest i'm quite jealous that some people can really enjoy the album, after all yes are a great band. But i always felt that they were putting things down too fast,never fully developing some of the better ideas, it only sounds like they had the basis for the songs but never added the touch that previous albums had.. and then there's jons lyrics, lacking the quality and originality he had on close to the edge.... sometimes sounding just ridiculous .......
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cobb
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:39 |
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To all you newbies out there, don't believe them. Relayer is flashy and instantly likeable, but TFTO is the pinnacle of 70's experimentation- this album defines progressive music to the point of defying likeability, but spend the time and you will be rewarded with an album that will bring you pleasure every single time you put it on. It may not enrich your life as it did mine, though I think you had to be there for that to happen.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:50 |
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Relayer, Tales is a bit too long with too much technical showoff. Relayer gets 5* from me, TFTO - 4.5. Both are great albums, but relayes is a bit better. And Tales took sooo long to appreciate...
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:41 |
I like both.
RELAYER is a great album ( 3 songs as in CTTE etc..) even if without WAKEMAN but MORAZ is a very talented keyboardist!
TALES is good but there is too much redundance of sounds IMO.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:51 |
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Even though I love Tales sooooooooooooo much and wouldnt have it any shorter......relayer happens to be my favourite album so my vote must go there!
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:59 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Even though I love Tales sooooooooooooo much and wouldnt have it any shorter......relayer happens to be my favourite album so my vote must go there! |
Favourite album in general???!! wow snow dog, cool
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:24 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Even though I love Tales sooooooooooooo much and wouldnt have it any shorter......relayer happens to be my favourite album so my vote must go there! |
Favourite album in general???!! wow snow dog, cool
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favourite Yes album...but it would be up there in my top 10 no doubt!
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ablamux
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:24 |
Ty1020 wrote:
kingwingding wrote:
i like relayer alot more tales is a little spacey for my taste
i just wish wakeman was still in for relayer ,it would of kicked much ass |
No way, Moraz is what made Relayer such a great record. Don't get me
wrong, I love Wakeman, but if he was still onboard for Relayer then the
album would have been completely different and we'd be without the
masterpiece that it is.
As for the thread's original question... I really can't choose, both albums are amazing.
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i agree with Ty1020 pretty much. and can add two arguments:
wakeman backed his idea of splitting Yes, when things got into more jazz instrumentations with TFTO. Relayer goes further. second: wakemans musical background is classic, so as he said in his interview (read it, don't just take my word for it)he couldn't offer much where Yes was heading.
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EL OSO
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:25 |
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I used to dislike Tales From Topographic Oceans when I first heard it, it took me more than three years and lots of plays to get it, and now I´m addicted to it, I even think is better than Close To The Edge, as albums are concerned.
In my opinion the highest point in the career of YES is Tales from Topographic Oceans. |
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DallasBryan
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:26 |
like comparing a diamond with a cubic zurconia........Relayer by miles. 
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