Relayer VS. Tales from Topographic Oceans
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Topic: Relayer VS. Tales from Topographic Oceans
Posted By: TheLamb
Subject: Relayer VS. Tales from Topographic Oceans
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:55
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Which album do you prefer? I'd have to go with Tales... It's a hard listen... Takes a while of getting used to, but all great things do. Relayer is good too though... What's your opinion? ------------- 
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Posted By: kingwingding
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:03
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i like relayer alot more tales is a little spacey for my taste
i just wish wakeman was still in for relayer ,it would of kicked much ass |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:08
| Relayer, because Gates of Delirium (with close to the edge), are the best songs Yes ever made, in my opinion. |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:23
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Relayer is pretty good, though not quite up to CTTE and nowhere near The Yes Album. TFTO is bloody awful. See my review for further vitriol. |
Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:34
No way, Moraz is what made Relayer such a great record. Don't get me wrong, I love Wakeman, but if he was still onboard for Relayer then the album would have been completely different and we'd be without the masterpiece that it is. As for the thread's original question... I really can't choose, both albums are amazing. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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kingwingding wrote:Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:36
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I prefer Relayer though Tales is amazing, Relayer sort of grabs you right from the get go, Tales is a bit of a hard listen ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:41
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Tales is an amazing piece of work that takes a long time to get used to...., but its still better than Relayer! |
Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:56
Tales is the most tedious and boring work of the 70's Yes albuns. Who want to buy the mine? Is the remastered version, I tried listen many times, but ...   
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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:56
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Haven't ever liked Tales much and always loved relayer ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:08
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I like both and got into both at the same time. I consider the trio of CTTE, TFTO, and Relayer to be some of the finest music written by any band. TFTO tends to get a bit boring with "The Remembering" and during the long scales during "The Ancients," so as an album Relayer would probably best TFTO since it doesn't drag on as much. Still, I much prefer "Revealing Science of God" to anything else Yes has ever done. ------------- ARTEMIA - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic L.i.E. - http://www.reverbnati |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:09
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I think relayer kind of regained the spark that was lost in the album before it, i love relayer, it's a fantastic album, i've never really liked tales.... i understand that some people really enjoy it though and i respect that, and to be honest i'm quite jealous that some people can really enjoy the album, after all yes are a great band. But i always felt that they were putting things down too fast,never fully developing some of the better ideas, it only sounds like they had the basis for the songs but never added the touch that previous albums had.. and then there's jons lyrics, lacking the quality and originality he had on close to the edge.... sometimes sounding just ridiculous ....... ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:39
| To all you newbies out there, don't believe them. Relayer is flashy and instantly likeable, but TFTO is the pinnacle of 70's experimentation- this album defines progressive music to the point of defying likeability, but spend the time and you will be rewarded with an album that will bring you pleasure every single time you put it on. It may not enrich your life as it did mine, though I think you had to be there for that to happen. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:50
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Relayer, Tales is a bit too long with too much technical showoff. Relayer gets 5* from me, TFTO - 4.5. Both are great albums, but relayes is a bit better. And Tales took sooo long to appreciate... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:41
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I like both. RELAYER is a great album ( 3 songs as in CTTE etc..) even if without WAKEMAN but MORAZ is a very talented keyboardist! TALES is good but there is too much redundance of sounds IMO. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:51
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Even though I love Tales sooooooooooooo much and wouldnt have it any shorter......relayer happens to be my favourite album so my vote must go there! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:59
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Favourite album in general???!! wow snow dog, cool ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:24
favourite Yes album...but it would be up there in my top 10 no doubt! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ablamux
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:24
i agree with Ty1020 pretty much. and can add two arguments: wakeman backed his idea of splitting Yes, when things got into more jazz instrumentations with TFTO. Relayer goes further. second: wakemans musical background is classic, so as he said in his interview (read it, don't just take my word for it)he couldn't offer much where Yes was heading. |
Posted By: EL OSO
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:25
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:26
like comparing a diamond with a cubic zurconia........Relayer by miles.
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Posted By: ablamux
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:28
| oh... and i'd go with Tales. |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:37
It would be in my top ten also, but close to the edge is my fav yes album, then relayer! ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: CellarRat
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:52
| Relayer sounds more like a group effort, though "Tales" is truer to the "classic" lineup (Bruford fans please don't yell at me). You could tell the group was tiring of itself and was at a turning point. Most of "Tales" seems like Ummagumma...soloing pesonality upfront, backup musicians "counting out time," while Relayer has a feel about it of musicians collaborating and comparing, which is more the realm M.O. of true prog. Hell, if Yes had been Kiss then "Tales" would have been the four solo albums Kiss released simultaneously with their corrosponding faces on the covers...except three of the album covers would have had Jon Anderson's face on it. I like both, but I feel from the standpoint of what prog ought to be, Relayer is stronger. Interesting question: Is there any other case in which (relative) brevity by a prog band is stronger than the usually lengthy inulgence? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 21:58
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Relayer, with TFTO close behind. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 22:49
| tales for me. relayer is very good, but overrated. Gates turns to crappy after the first 5 great minutes. Soundchaser starts to get annoying. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 22:54
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Love them both... prefer Tales. The shear audacity to put an album like that out. The lads in Yes must have had 'stones' the size of Texas. Obscure eastern religious text, 4 commen theme side longs. Think another 'major' rock group would EVER do an album like that today. Perhaps a better question, would they be allowed to by the 'suits' hmmm.... Filler?....bah? An oft repeated criticism. All in the eye of the listener. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 04:43
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This is the most tornentig poll possible! The two greatest albums by the greatest band in the world! I picked Tales, I find it warmer. But it wins only after the 2nd overtime 130 to 129. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 05:06
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No the 2 best Yes albums are The yes album and CTTE |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 05:09
Relayer...it contains 'The Gates Of Delirium'...simple as that.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 05:10
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I will go with Tales
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 05:14
And don't forget about Fragile! |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 06:13
| Both great, but for me it's got to be Relayer.....second only to CTTE as my favourite Yes album! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 06:31
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I agree. -------------  |
Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 10:10
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For me, The Gates is a good song, but I can't see what all the fuss is about... Sound Chaser is the Relayer "highlight" for me... Tales is still better in my opinion. Maybe it's because I've listened to Tales for quite a while but I haven't had much time to listen to Relayer so intensively... -------------
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 10:35
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Tales From Topographic Oceans, allthou Relayer is great only Close to the edge beats TFTO. ------------- 
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 12:30
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Relayer ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 14:28
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Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:01
| Both are great but I like Tales better. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 21:51
why bother adding to that.... well said... though it only took me about two years hahahahha. Prog fans should be if anything... patient. Prog isn't cock rock. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 22:47
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Tales from Topographic Oceans is perhaps my favorite album so I’ll go with that, Relayer is also one of my favorites. ------------- "I can't see through my eye lids" |