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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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I recently heard "Lizard" and almost all of "In the Wake of Poseidon". I know it's a little late at night but I had to ask!! Why do those two albums get so much abuse?? The title track on Lizard I was expecting to be sloppy and uninteresting, But I really enjoyed it! It was tighter than I expected, I thought it was excellent. Crimson fans out there. I would really like to know what you think about those albums.. Edited by Winter Wine |
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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I don't think so. Both of them are really good |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Yep, pretty much Edited by Winter Wine |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Concerning In the Wake of Poseidon : I'm not the biggest fan because of a few reasons: 1) The album structure is eerily similar to In the Court of the Crimson King. This makes it feel like a rushed, half-hearted effort. 2) Lake is not as brilliant or powerful on In the Wake... as he was on In the Court... 3) I do not like "Cat Food" at all. 4) Come to think of it, even the album titles are eerily similar: In the wake of Poseidon, In the Court of the Crimson King... That said, In the Wake of Poseidon is a pretty good album, but definately does not compare to In the Court of the Crimson King. I like the title track a lot, though. |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Ok that's fair.. I think 'Cat Food' is cool Though. Little wierd, but cool. 'Cadence and Cascade' is also fantastic!! It is similar to the previous record, But I don't see that much harm in that fact alone. If the songs were bad then yes I'd wave it off, But they are strong songs. Cover's pretty nice to look at too Edited by Winter Wine |
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Paulieg ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 934 |
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Lizard is one of my favorite Crimson albums, along with one of my favorite albums, period! As for ITWOP, not as good as ITCOTCK, but great nonetheless.
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Lizard rocks, the title track I mean Edited by Winter Wine |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29670 |
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I think its true that Greg Lake had already decided to leave when In The Wake Of Poseidon was being recorded,but just hung around to help Robert Fripp out.In The Wake Of Posiedon was not a particularly harmonious affair and it shows.I like 'Cat Food' though...good lyrics!
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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They don't! |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Really, you don't think so?? I've only heard how "Lizard" was a mess. Fripp himself said that this period was a time of "failure" Edited by Winter Wine |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I'm getting Lizard soon, I'll tell you what I think. BTW: Why do you capitalize every word in a sentence, Winter Wine? Edited by stonebeard |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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My name is the title of a song on "In the Land of Grey and Pink" by Caravan that I am quite fond of. Get Lizard!!! and tell me what you think, PM Me..
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chamberry ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
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I love lizard. is one of the best albums by King Crimson. And in the wake... is good too but not as great as lizard
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Glad you think so, 'Lizard' is becoming a real favourite of mine.. Edited by Winter Wine |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I thought you meant it was getting abuse here......I don't give a toss what Fripp thinks. |
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con safo ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 17 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
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I think theyre both great albums... Lizard is one of my favourite KC albums.
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Lateralus_66 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 03 2005 Location: Fiji Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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What kind of "Abuse" 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5? ![]() Merriam-Webster Online: abuse Main Entry: 1abuse ![]() Pronunciation: &-'byüs Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French abus, from Latin abusus, from abuti to consume, from ab- + uti to use 1 : a corrupt practice or custom 2 : improper or excessive use or treatment : MISUSE <drug abuse> 3 obsolete : a deceitful act : DECEPTION 4 : language that condemns or vilifies usually unjustly, intemperately, and angrily 5 : physical maltreatment Edited by Lateralus_66 |
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Bern ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 11746 |
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I personnaly really enjoy Lizard
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Oh, I have In the Land of Grey and Pink, I just didn't make the connection. |
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ANDREW ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 21 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 3064 |
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IMO ITWOP is very similar to their debut album (all the songs go back to 1969, when ITCOTCK was released), but to me it's more refined and melodic. LIZARD is more jazzy, thanks to the jazz guest musicians, even if the mellotron is more in evidence. Anyway ITWOP is my favourite. |
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