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Froth 
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 10:42 |
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For me, Prog's most important feature is its influences from other Musical genres... which is the most important for its development though? I'd say jazz, what do you think? do say if i've left any out
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Zac M
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 10:52 |
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For the prog I like best, Jazz
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 10:53 |
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I heard a lot of jazz and blues...
also world music, music from india...
and "Yanni"
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Atkingani
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 11:22 |
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I voted for Classical but all mentioned genres were (are) important for Progressive including Rock itself which was not listed.
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Froth
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 11:34 |
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well i see rock as a starting point that you developw with the help of other genres... it goes without saying that it'll be you starting influence, otherwise you'll be an avent-Jazz artist or Contempory composer, not a Prog-Rocker
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Man With Hat
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 11:41 |
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I would say Jazz or classical
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Atkingani
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 11:51 |
 Froth wrote:
well i see rock as a starting point that you developw with the help of other genres... it goes without saying that it'll be you starting influence, otherwise you'll be an avent-Jazz artist or Contempory composer, not a Prog-Rocker |
I agree partially 
The matter is: Is there a Progressive Music being Prog-Rock only a subgenre of that?
I guess I'm talking for much of the non-Anglo-Saxon world where in many parts you'll find Progressive Music based on local/regional/national roots where in these cases Rock is simply an influence not necessarily the starting point. 
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Froth
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 12:32 |
I think the problem is Prog-Rock is more of an Idiology than a genre, where all other genres have a paricular sound, Prog-Rock bands can sound completely different to each other. So the only real genres here are Prog's sub-genres like Fusion, Canterbury and Symphonic Rock. But i suppose you could say there is a genre of progressive music which, like you say would inclued Prog-Rock, Avent-Jazz and Contempory-Classical among others under its wing
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Publius84
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 12:34 |
Classical, jazz and metal too 
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goose
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 13:14 |
...rock music? 
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Space Dimentia
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 13:57 |
Classical man! It is the true prog rock! I sing in a choir and tomorrow we a singing a track called ave maria stella and has about 3 changes in time signiture in the whole song that is about 3-4 mins!
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 15:05 |
- Rock & roll : ELVIS PRESLEY, etc...
- Beat and Psychedelia : BEATLES, etc...
- Progressive : ..................................
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Deliriumist
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 15:16 |
True prog - the way it's brewed:
- ~50% - Classical etc.
- ~20% - Folk etc.
- ~15% - Jazz
- ~10% - Metal
- ~5% - World music & other
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 18:36 |
Deliriumist wrote:
True prog - the way it's brewed:
- ~50% - Classical etc.
- ~20% - Folk etc.
- ~15% - Jazz
- ~10% - Metal
- ~5% - World music & other
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..............and blues too.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 20:45 |
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Metal. I like a few classic non-prog metal bands, but most of my collection is prog, there's so much diversity in it I don't need anything else for now.
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Froth
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 20:51 |
goose wrote:
...rock music? |
now look, as i just explaind, Prog isnt influenced by rock, it IS rock. But its the other influences that make it Progressive
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Mr. Krinkle
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 20:56 |
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Grunge, blues, hard rock, little punk and reggae.
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Gentle Tull
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 21:19 |
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Classical for some bands and jazz for others.
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Destrio
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 21:32 |
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I'd say Jazz, Classical a close second
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 22:23 |
I would say classical
most of the prog 'monsters' are influenced primarily by classical music, then jazz
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