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Points: 47 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 00:04
there are LOADS of really new bands with very interesting sounds

such as Porcupine Tree, my peresonal favorite at the moment(can´t stop listening to the Recordings album and Coma divine!)

but as the matter of prog rock being dead, i think it is dead, as the living thing today is hardcore and hip hop music, there´s no way you will ever get return for investing in a prog rock band for the public these days. As i think the definition of dead is being not listened by a reasonable public, or not having anything new happening (not as far as new bands go, as far as influenting that genre, that´s why i like newer porcupine tree a lot, they´ve added so many pop sounds)

and in fact, prog will be dead for good now, just as the classic rock genre, it is only for saudosists and people interested in a different culture than nowadays.
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Points: 4318 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 16:53
I don't think so. Maybe old school prog is dead, but there is a lot of experimental rock bands.
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 17:23

Hello Cuncuna.

Do you know Angulart and Jaime Rosas Cuartetto? I love them!

 
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Points: 727 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2005 at 11:21
The seventies progressive rock bands set a precedent which could not be matched, ie. Close to the Edge, Brain Salad Surgery, Dark Side of the Moon and Nursery Cryme.
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Points: 115 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2005 at 13:41
Could it be that prog rock is still alive and well, but the true prog FAN is (mostly) dead?  Do we still listen with a set of 1975 ears, or are our ears corrupted by all of the modern distractions of video games and other instant entertainment?

Are people genuinely interested in music (of any genre) anymore?  I can't count how many times I've heard the phrase, "I don't know what the lyrics are...lyrics are unimportant" or "I don't listen to CDs, I find a song I like and download it."  These are intrinsic parts of the music listening experience, yet it always seems as though the modern fast food mentality of the world doesn't allow for being absorbed by music.  Am I wrong?

And yes, there are loads of good modern prog bands...Izz, Land Of Chocolate, Echolyn, Glass Hammer, Systems Theory, The Mosquito, The Red Masque, Farpoint, Little Atlas, Under The Sun, Estradasphere, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Magenta, Somnambulist, and I hope to have Big Hairy Monster recognized among these groups on the release of our debut later this year.  There is no shortage of music, just a shortage of interested listeners.




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Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

Coheed, System of a Down, and Fall of Troy are all progressive rock bands.  It may not be the overproduced stuff of the 70's but its still progressive.  I think the definition on this website for progressive rock is wrong, because most of the bands really fit into the category are overblown pretentious and overproduced.  All of the bands I just mentioned are just as much art-rock prog as a band like Alan parsons project or even queen for that matter.  The fact that they are pushing the envelope in modern music today makes them progressive rock bands.  Just like the mars volta. 

It seems to me that people on this website and forum label the bands they like as prog and any band they dont like isnt progressive.  Just like people that bash dream theater or mars volta. 

On another note, I really don't understand the definition of progressive on this website.  I dont see how making music complex and long makes something "progressive".  The definition of progressive is that it brings about change.  A band like pink floyd brought about change in the music industry as a whole, just like bands like the beatles or rush, or even the mars volta in terms of modern music.  I would consider most of the bands on this website to be "Art rock" but not really "progressive", because "progressive" implies that they brought about change. 

Theres a difference between writing a 30 minute long song about slaying dragons and killing monsters and having it have 1000000 time signature changes and have it written in 5 different keys than writing a 4:00 long song that truly changes the face of rock as a whole.  The later is whats progressive to me.

Well said!

"Progressive" should be about pushing the boundaries. A lot of the groups on this site do not do that.

 
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Do people know about the band Akineton Retard from Chile?

http://www.akineton.cl/

Their first album is pretty impressive and might appeal to fans of King Crimson, Soft Machine, Henry Cow, and Magma. They combine some elements from those bands but their sound is current and fresh. They seem to be classified in the RIO category, but I'm not very familiar with that genre.

I like them.

Here's someone's description of Akineton Retard:

"...excellent Chilean quintet utilizing guitar, bass, drums and dual sax players. Very much influenced by King Crimson and even by the KC Projekts, Akineton Retard play an aggressive forn of angular, modern prog that has few if any equals on the current scene. There is also something of the NY 'downtown' scene present in their uniquely avant-garde take on the prog rock genre. Maybe hints at Curlew or even John Zorn's groundbreaking ensemble Naked City."
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wow,a new progband on the horizon??

The Aurora project - Biography

Call them mystical, profound, psychedelic or theatrical: the Aurora Project is unlike any other typical rock band out there.

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In 1999, while playing the famous fantasy card game “Magic: The Gathering,” the six future members of The Aurora Project become acquainted with each other. They find out that, not only do they all love “Magic,” they also share a passion for mysterious rock music. At this point, the Aurora Project is a work in the making.
The Aurora Project’s music delivers powerful atmospheric progressive rock, where influences by bands such as Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Tool, Stephen Hawking and Anathema can be found.

After years of rehearsal, in 2001 the band decided to record their first demo in a Dutch publisher’s studio, CAT Music. CAT Music was so thoroughly impressed by the band, that they provided them with the opportunity to record a full-length album under CAT Music’s licensing. The Aurora Project maximized their efforts and produce the concept album Unspoken Words.

In the following period, all efforts were coordinated to find a suitable record company to release the album. In March 2005, the band succeeded and signed with the Dutch record company DVS Records. The internationally oriented label has proved its thorough understanding of the progressive rock market with previous successful releases by bands such as Wolverine, Into Eternity and, most recently, Alias Eye and Voyager.

They have 2 songs from their album placed on their website at:

www.theauroraproject.com
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Points: 21381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:01

I'm already listing The Aurora Project ... I'll add the link to their homepage. BTW: Check out this page too for samples:

http://www.dvsrecords.com/samples.htm

 
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Points: 80 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:17

Is the album available in the usa??
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Points: 440 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:21
For one Coheed and Cambria are prog they call themsleves that. But I do agree there are not many on the horizon yet there is revivall going on, that is why a part of my hopes that my band (we are called Equinox) will be picked up and we can the continue the march of the 'nu-prog'.
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:51
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ cobb: Nevertheless Wobbler are a great band. Being derivative is not a bad thing in itself, as long as the band makes it obvious.

BTW: In the last issue of the German magazine "Eclipsed" there was a nice article on current prog bands. Highlights were: Pendragon, Echolyn, Glass Hammer, Man On Fire and Wobbler. Prog is far from dead ... many new exciting releases this year.

  • Sigur Ros
  • Secret Chiefs 3
  • Neal Morse
  • Roine Stolt
  • Sieges Even
  • ...
  • ...
  • ..

I can't complain!

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Points: 388 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 12:59

There doesn't seem to be lack of newer prog. bands.  There are many new bands, and most are included on this site.  The quality though seems to be lacking.  Something is lost these days that was in the older groups. 

 
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I have been to the homepage of Coheed and Cambria and listened to all the examples there; I can't find anything proggy in them

Welcome Home and The Suffering (the two song samples I found on their site) are not their most progressive songs.  I highly suggest getting their latest album though.  Even if it isn't prog, that doesn't mean it's not worth giving it a listen.
BTW, I do think C&C are prog!
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Points: 967 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 13:53

Mostly Autumn are true prog and thoroughly modern. They are also brilliant, in the style of the great 70s bands. They are not afraid to scream their progness from the rooftops, either.

I'm just setting off to see them in York tonight!

PS They were absolutely amazing. Don't miss them!



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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 14:43

I don't really agree

I think that some bands that are coming to surface are pretty good
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 15:56
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

contrary to what you say, I don't have the impression there is such a lack of newer bands in here. while the archive is by no means complete, it has quite a huge variety of new artists.


as to Coheed and Cambria: from what I have heard of them, they don't strike me as a prog band at all




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