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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 23:04 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Netherlands, now or never, they always seem followed by bad luck, two times 2° place. When they had an amazing team again, Van Basten had the definitive injury and Ruud Gullit fought with the coach. If not, I'll vote for England, they have a solid team. I don't want Brazil again, I love their football and country, but let's give the chance to other teams. Iván Edited by ivan_2068 |
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As a patriot I must say: POLAND!
Seriously I thik it could be: Brazil, Argentina or Holland France: I doubt that Zidane, Henry and Makelele can play 7-8 good matches. Zidane has the wors season in his career so far. England: Sorry, Poland and England are sworn enemies in football so I would gladly see the coming back home after 3 matches. Spain, Germany & Italy: They have the players but they don`t have the team. That`s all I have to say. Watch out for Czech, Ukraine and Poland (hopefully)! |
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 14:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wait, why is Germany so valued out of the blue? Didn't they suck the big one no less than two years ago?
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sleeper
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 10:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
^some people think that because their playing at home they'll pill the preverbial rabbit out of the hat, of course refs always go eith the home side, both England and Portugal have benefited from them at home.
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 17:19 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brazil or Argentina will win the world cup. Beckham is overrated, and winning friendlies is totally meaningless, unless you believe in fairies. Lichtenstein and San Marino in the final would be a real hoot. |
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King of Loss
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 19:47 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, but that was against Brazil NOT IN EUROPE. I believe Brazil to be incapable in Europe. |
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sleeper
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 20:04 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dont count on it Flossy, they no longer rely on their wunderkind () Ronaldo anymore and they will be a threat. |
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 04:20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brazil - 40%
Germany - 20% England - 12% France - 10% Argentina - 8% Netherlands - 6% Italy - 3% Anyone else - 1% Brazil, enough said. Germany purely based on will power and home advantage. Their quality is lousy. But they were lousy 4 years ago and went to the finals. England can go all the way, if Ericsson (or someone else) can forge a team out of some of the best players in the world. And IF Rooney does not lose it and gets sent off. This could be Rooney's tournament, positive or negative. France is always in with a chance on pure class alone. Argentina too. The Netherlands has a great team spirit (the best in decades) but does not have the experience or the sheer class to have a higher chance of winning. Italy is always an outider. I honestly cannot see anyone else win the tournament. |
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http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well, you never know... Especially with Greece beating out all of those World-Class teams during Euro 2004. Seriously, you can never count out many teams, except for some of the Asian, North American and African countries. |
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Here are the teams that are in, but of course, I'm going to bold the teams that have at least a 0.1% chance of winning.
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sleeper
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:10 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Serbia hasnt got any chance, I don know how they got into the world cup and dont write of Australia, theyve got some good players from the Premiaship, to qualify any team from Australasia has to go to a knock out stage with one of the south american teams after they win the Australasian leage. |
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:35 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1. Why is this called World Cup, when almost half of the teams are from Europe?
2. Winners will be FIFA and the sponsors. 3. It doesn't matter, which teams are in the final, because getting there is very much a matter of luck and being in the right group from the start, as previous tournaments have shown. Why do you think Germany as host and Brazil as current title holders will be in different groups? Just because the sponsors and FIFA would lose big money, if those two teams would meet too early and one - certainly Germany - would be out of the tournament at an early stage. 4. For all I know, you can't predict who'll win, but you know who will be the losers: the fans. They'll face maximum rip-off of money, if they ever get a chance to get a ticket. Why do most of the tickets go to the sponsors and to officials, anyway? Edited by Guzzman |
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"We've got to get in to get out"
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Tony R
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:18 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Such cynicism.... |
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Atkingani
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Unfortunately we know that in the end, soccer itself and fans themselves will be the great losers and FIFA will be the winner - with its sponsors. Things are not fair with soccer since the end of the 70s/beginning of the 80s. Until that date, at least here in South America, clubs were able to afford their players. Pelé played 17 of his 20 years of career only in Brazil; other great players like Brindisi, Pedro Rocha, Figueroa always played in South America (in fact we had a good interchange here among our nations). So suddenly every good (and many not so good) player was aiming to go to Europe. It's obvious that money counts but several of them are going in a situation worse than they have here. Even stars like the Ronaldos and others complain about the absence of many technical and medical facilities they had here, in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, etc. Recently Ronaldo Lima (from Real Madrid) hurt and he came to Brazil to be treated stating clearly that the conditions for recovery are better here than in Madrid. The fact is that FIFA is an European entity and is trying to make UEFA a kind of NBA. Agents and promoters that see only money own FIFA and earn a lot of money with the transfers (players have a percentage - and it is the great reason for them accepting the transfers). After paying a fortune for the players, European clubs have to make a big effort to have money back and they engage some of them (the real stars) in the celebrity circuit or start a vicious circle of selling/purchasing of people that reminds me the slavery time - several players after being discarded by clubs end their days working as masons, street sellers even scavengers, etc. I believe that weakening other continental federations may be good for the FIFA's owner wallets but terrible for the sport. Another matter is getting some kids ages 14-15, take them to Europe and nationalize some of them in order they could play for European national teams. Is it fair? One thing is a kid that went very young as a real immigrant like Gullit and others but this is not the case for Deco, Asamoa, Oliveira, etc. What to do? Can someone imagine a French or German national team composed by Brazilians, Nigerians, Colombians, Koreans and whatelse? SORRY IF I COULDN'T EXPLAIN BETTER!!!
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:24 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, I know. But however, I seriously doubt it. |
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Trotsky
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:25 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Trotsky's thoughts in blue
I must add though that Europe's behaviour in terms of rotating the hosting of World Cups is disgusting (is it coincidence that no European team has ever won a World Cup out of Europe?) Edited by Trotsky |
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 05:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Serbia and Montenegro? Is that how Yugoslavia is called officially now? Am I missing something? I am so uninformed. |
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Drachen Theaker
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 06:46 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Germany (home advantage) or Brazil/Argentina (the best teams) will probably win it. Edited by Drachen Theaker |
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Phil
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 07:10 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Too right, whatever the commercial cynicism behind some of it there are going to be some great matches and it always tops the Olympics as a spectacle. |
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 19:00 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Angola, totally. Their flag is just too beautiful.
Otherwise, my votes go to the Czechs, the Brazilians or the Swedes (Well, one gotta hope...) |
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