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TheProgtologist 
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 Topic: TOOL.......prog?
Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:06 |
I am a huge fan of this band and see them praised and denounced in pretty much equal measure on this site.But I see some people don't consider them prog or prog metal and that astounds me because their last 2 albums are most definitely prog metal.What does everyone else think?
And I think they are prog and one of the best bands out there right now.Catch them live if you like them and haven't seen them yet,their performance live is perfection...flawless.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:16 |
Of course they are prog!
VERY few bands these days are doing as much to push music forward as Tool. Theirs is the most complex, layered, mathematical, beautiful rock music made (IMO of course). Every note of the music is meaningful and in the perfect place. I could go on for hours about the Lateralus album alone.
I can't wait for the new album and hopefully the subsequent tour. There are rumors of a live DVD coming out in August, but nothing has been confirmed as far as i know.
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Logos
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:18 |
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Certainly prog.
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:20 |
Yes, but I don't like them that much. A boring band for me.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:55 |
I like them ... but I don't have any of their albums, and I never get around to buy one. I'll set up a ebay search for aenima and lateralus.
BTW: Do they still tour? As far as I know, they've ben put "on hold" because APC takes precedence.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:58 |
 TheProgtologist wrote:
... see them praised and denounced in pretty much equal measure on this site ...
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It's my theory that this is common for all truly great bands (or indeed artists in general).
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:15 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I like them ... but I don't have any of their albums, and I never get around to buy one. I'll set up a ebay search for aenima and lateralus.
BTW: Do they still tour? As far as I know, they've ben put "on hold" because APC takes precedence.
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Yes,they are still touring.Their new album Teleincision should be out this year and the band Isis is already rumored to be the opening act.And while Maynard James Keenan has stressed emphatically that APC is NOT a side project he has also stated that is his main band and takes precedence over everything.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:17 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I like them ... but I don't have any of their albums, and I never get around to buy one. I'll set up a ebay search for aenima and lateralus.
BTW: Do they still tour? As far as I know, they've ben put "on hold" because APC takes precedence.
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Yes,they are still touring.Their new album Teleincision should be out this year and the band Isis is already rumored to be the opening act.And while Maynard James Keenan has stressed emphatically that APC is NOT a side project he has also stated that ^ is his main band and takes precedence over everything.
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^ I meant to put TOOL there.And Mike,if you only buy ONE Tool cd buy Lateralus.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 18:01 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Yes,they are still touring.Their new album Teleincision should be out this year and the band Isis is already rumored to be the opening act.And while Maynard James Keenan has stressed emphatically that APC is NOT a side project he has also stated that ^ is his main band and takes precedence over everything.
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^ I meant to put TOOL there.And Mike,if you only buy ONE Tool cd buy Lateralus.
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Thanks, I'll see what Ebay has to offer ...
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Bryan
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 20:47 |
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If it weren't for Tool, it's entirely possible that I wouldn't be here
right now. Most of the people who don't consider them prog are
rabid prog-metal haters from what I've observed.
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greenback
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 00:01 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
If it weren't for Tool, it's entirely possible that I wouldn't be here right now. Most of the people who don't consider them prog are rabid prog-metal haters from what I've observed. |
except me, useful!
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 11:58 |
greenback wrote:
Useful_Idiot wrote:
If it weren't for Tool, it's entirely possible that I wouldn't be here right now. Most of the people who don't consider them prog are rabid prog-metal haters from what I've observed. |
except me, useful!
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Well, they don't really consider them a Progressive Metal band.... THey've even said it, so guessing that's what you've heard, Greenback.
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gdub411
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:36 |
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Prog indeed. If one doesn't think so, then play them Third Eye and look them square in the face and ask...Is this prog?
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 16:10 |
I think yes. But it's not important really. First of all they are marvellous band. My favourite is probably Aenima, but it's a tough decision.
I usually don't care for genres but please don't call them prog-metal.  They have nothing in common with bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X or Threshold that for most listeners defined the genre. It's misleading.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 17:35 |
Third Eye wrote:
I think yes. But it's not important really. First of all they are marvellous band. My favourite is probably Aenima, but it's a tough decision.
I usually don't care for genres but please don't call them prog-metal. They have nothing in common with bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X or Threshold that for most listeners defined the genre. It's misleading.
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I don't really care what they are defined as either.I just see so many confilicting opinions of the band on this forum that I was just curious as to what other people think.
And if I want to call them progressive metal I will damn well call them that.Do me a favor and don't dictate to me and tell me what to say and not to say.I agree with you that they have nothing in common with DT,Symphony X and the like,they are a very different breed of band,with a very unique sound.But their music is very very progressive.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 17:49 |
Third Eye wrote:
I usually don't care for genres but please don't call them prog-metal. |
It's the only label that fits. I think the problem is that most people use the genre to narrowly. Fans of Yes and Genesis often think that something which is labeled prog is supposed to be similar to Yes or Genesis. It's the same with DT, PoS, SyX and Prog Metal. There is so much more to the genre than just these three bands ...
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Drew
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 19:39 |
i say no- they are metal- or hard rock
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Parker
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:18 |
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2 words... not prog... shouldn't be
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 08:00 |
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Not prog
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sularetal
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 16:12 |
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The problem is that their sound is soooooo unique that you cant categorize them. If I had to I would say they are prog.
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