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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:52 |
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff 2- Ferenc Puskás 3- Alfredo Di Stéfano 4- Mathias Sindelar 5- Zoltan Czibor 6- Pedro Cea 7- Dejan Savicevic 8- Johan Neeskens 9- Pelé 10- Michael Laudrup
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My list, only those I seen:
- Edson Arantes Do Nascimento Pelé: The day when you find another 3 World Cup winner with more than 1,000 goals let me know.
- Diego Armando Maradona: Great N° 2
- Marco Van Basten: A machine
- Michel Platini: Artist and player
- Franz Beckembauer: The soldier with heart, can't forget him playing with a broken shoulder on Mexico 70 against Italy, epic.
- Johan Cruyff: Another artist
- Teofilo Cubillas: Third man with more goals in World Cup history and an artist, my Scottish friends remember him with love .
- Lev Yashin: The black spider, only seen him on video, but incredible goalkeeper.
- Zbigniew Boniek: One of the fastest men on the field ever.
- Jan Ceulemans: Too tall, heavy and slow, but the guy always managed to win every ball and made a lot of horrible but valuable goals.
Iván
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:12 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff 2- Ferenc Puskás 3- Alfredo Di Stéfano 4- Mathias Sindelar 5- Zoltan Czibor 6- Pedro Cea 7- Dejan Savicevic 8- Johan Neeskens 9- Pelé 10- Michael Laudrup
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My list, only those I seen:
- Edson Arantes Do Nascimento Pelé: The day when you find another 3 World Cup winner with more than 1,000 goals let me know.
- Diego Armando Maradona: Great N° 2
- Marco Van Basten: A machine
- Michel Platini: Artist and player
- Franz Beckembauer: The soldier with heart, can't forget him
playing with a broken shoulder on Mexico 70 against Italy, epic.
- Johan Cruyff: Another artist
- Teofilo Cubillas: Third man with more goals in World Cup history and an artist, my Scottish friends remember him with love .
- Lev Yashin: The black spider, only seen him on video, but incredible goalkeeper.
- Zbigniew Boniek: One of the fastest men on the field ever.
- Jan Ceulemans: Too tall, heavy and slow, but the guy
always managed to win every ball and made a lot of horrible but
valuable goals.
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Franz Beckembauer is a wonderful player... So was Van Basten. Great list. Johan Cruyff, to me, is on the top.
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:23 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff
2- Ferenc Puskás
3- Alfredo Di Stéfano
4- <span ="post">Mathias Sindelar</span>
5- Zoltan Czibor
6- <span ="post">Pedro Cea</span>
7- Dejan Savicevic
8- Johan Neeskens
9- Pelé
10- Michael Laudrup
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I'm not old enough to have seen most of those guys play, so my alltime top 10 consists of players from more recent times.
1: Zinedine Zidane
2: Maradona
3: Hristo Stoichkov
4: Paulo Maldini
5: Gary Lineker
6: Lothar Matthäus
7: Thierry Henry
8: Ronaldinho
9: Steven Gerrard
10: Jürgen Klinsmann
Henry, Ronaldinho and Gerrard all have a long career still ahead of them, so they can easily climb a few places on the list |
Of the actually playing, mine would be:
1- Zinedine Zidane
2- Kaka
3- Ronaldinho
4- Pavel Nedved
5- Shevchenko
6- Arjen Robben
7- Thierry Henry
8- Adriano
9- Wayne Rooney
10- Messi
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 21:24 |
Hey Fantomas, I missed Hristo Stoichkov, the guy was pure heart and b*lls, you could se in his face that loosing wasn't an option for him.
Wonderful player.
I don't know if most of you are too young but I remember the National team from Polland in Argentina 78 that was awesome:
Guys like Zbigniew Boniek, Kazimierz Deyna, Grzegord Lato, Henryk Kasperczak, Andrzeg Szarmach, Wladislaw Smuda and the incredible Jan Tomasewski, What a great team.
After they sent Perú to hell in 1/4 finals, I believed they deserved to be champions, we met them again in Spain 82 but this time they killed us with a clear 5 - 1.
Iván
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:46 |
Many great teams didn't win a world cup (see Denmark in 86, Brazil in
82, Holland in 74, Hungary in 54, etc...). It's kinda frustrating to
the lovers of a well-played football. Btw, Flamengo in 1981 was the
best team of the world. And I mean it. If that team would have gone to
the world cup in 82, the history today would be different.
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:48 |
Oh, and the Real Madrid of Puskas and Di Stefano, to me, was the best
thing that already existed in soccer. Those were the times...
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:42 |
Fantômas wrote:
Many great teams didn't win a world cup (see Denmark in 86, Brazil in 82, Holland in 74, Hungary in 54, etc...). It's kinda frustrating to the lovers of a well-played football. Btw, Flamengo in 1981 was the best team of the world. And I mean it. If that team would have gone to the world cup in 82, the history today would be different. |
I'd like to remember the bravest team I saw playing: HOLLAND 1978, specially at the final game against Argentina! They played tremendously against a huge pressure from all squares. My God, and if that Resenbrink's kick which hit the woods in the last minute had entered the net?
Edited by Atkingani
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:45 |
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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sleeper
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 13:11 |
What happened to Hungury, I hear they were one of the heavyweights in the 50's but what changed in the country
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:21 |
Dear God! Who created this list?
Zidane was the best two years ago. Van Nisterlooy showed nothing in last season, same with Figo, Beckham and Del Piero.
OK now it`s time for my list:
1. Frank Lampard - without him Chealsea is nothing
2. Kaka - one of the most intelligent players in the world
3. Christiano Ronaldo - superb technique, too bad he can`t spread his wings in Man Utd
4. Rafael Van Der Vaart - simply amazing playmaker and scores a lot
goals too. What is he doing in HSV? he should play in Real Madrid!
5. Ronaldinho - I don`t like the guy (Barcelona sucks) but I have to
admitt he`s technique is outstanding. The whole team plays for him. he
should be playing if RM too
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Runaway
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:35 |
A lot of mexican players are also very good, especialy of Cruz azul and Chivas, which are my fav teams for sure.
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memowakeman
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 20:41 |
Runaway wrote:
A lot of mexican players are also very good, especialy of Cruz azul and Chivas, which are my fav teams for sure. |
But i dont think anyone in this forum know something about Cruz Azul or Chivas
Anyway, Carlos Salcido and Oswaldo Sanchez are both fantastic players... you will see them for sure in the world cup... ( of course they`re not the best soccer player in the world ), but are very good!!
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 21:41 |
The only thing I know about soccer is that all the kids in the United States who play it have really annoying, right-wing neo-nazi mothers who drive Ford Escalades and other earth-raping-like SUVs .
So how about this "footballer"? This guy kicked a 7 pound (3.2 kilo) egg-shaped ball through a goal that was 18 1/2 feet (5.6 meters) wide and 10 feet (3 meters) off the grond, from 63 yards (57.6 meters) away, with over a ton (1,000 kilos) of men (11 of them) running straight at him. And if that wasn't impressive enough, check out the picture carefully - the guy only has half a foot!
Now that's some football!
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:06 |
Ronaldinho,no doubt...
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:01 |
- RONALDINHO
- ZIDANE
- FIGO
- DEL PIERO
- VAN NISTELROOY
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philippe
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:09 |
None from the list. Juninho for me! this guy is genius . His job in "lyon" (France) is just incredible. The future star of the Brazilian national team!!!!
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shyman
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 10:13 |
Currently, Ronaldinho by a big difference.
If we are talking about all time players, Pelé, also by a big difference
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 19:01 |
Not for the list yet, but the German members kow about the Peruvian Claudio Pizarro who has been elected the best forward of the last Champions League and a future top 10 Paolo Guerrero both from Bayern Munchen.
Also our friends from Holland know about another Peruvian Jefferson Farfán from PSV Eindhoven, this one could be a top 10 soon, he's only 21.
Iván
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Manunkind
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Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:18 |
Drew wrote:
The best soccer player is one who never plays- because its more exciting to watch someone sitting than playing that horrid game! |
Oh come on, American football is not only about sitting... there's also a lot of standing with perched buttocks involved...
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Deliriumist
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Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:45 |
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