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    Posted: November 13 2005 at 14:59
It may seem like an odd question, but can anybody think of any prog songs with trombone in them? I've played trombone for a few years now and I was trying to think of prog bands who feature trombone, but I couldn't come up with anything.

On a related note, if anybody knows any non-prog bands with great trombone players, I wouldn't mind hearing those as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:02

Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:05
The superb French zeuhl / avant band SHUB NIGGURATH employed a full-
time (bass) trombonist, Véronique Verdier.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:07
Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:


Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.

Where can I find some of their songs? There are no samples here on PA, unfortunately.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:09
Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:


Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:


Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.

Where can I find some of their songs? There are no samples here on PA, unfortunately.


http://www.magellanweb.com/provahyf.htm

Their official website.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:09

Shub Niggurath use trombone extensively - their best album is Les Morts Vont Vite

Magma featured trombone on parts of Udu Wudu and Attahk.

Western Culture by Henry Cow features some excellent trombone by Anne Marie Roelofs.

Shleep by Robert Wyatt features British trombone ace Annie Whitehead, more usually heard playing jazz.

Some of Zappa's albums featured trombone, usually played by Bruce Fowler , but it tended to be as part of a bigger horn section. The Grand Wazoo and Make a Jazz Noise Here both feature splendid brass arrangements. Bruce Fowler also played on Captain Beefheart's brilliant Shiny Beast album.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:28
Alamaailman Vasarat used trombone on their first two albums, and you can also hear it in Uzva's debut.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 18:51
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Shleep by Robert Wyatt features British trombone ace Annie Whitehead, more usually heard playing jazz.



Annie Whitehead is perhaps more significant in putting together the Robert Wyatt tribute concert at Newark (Notts, UK) about 5 years ago with a line-up including Phil Manzanera and recording of which was released by Voiceprint as Soup Song  - a label which reissued her not so jazzy Naked album  (Jasper Van't Hoff in the line up) - on the sleeve of which she was brave enough to appear only wearing her trombone!

I also have a lot of time for James Pankow, trombonist forever with Chicago - and until they sold out - Pankow was responsible for a lot of their early great arrangements. Mother on Chicago 3 is my favourite Pankow trombone moment.

Jazz rock fusion: Dennis Rawlins is somebody to watch out for, as is Joseph Bowie of  Defunkt, Jose Roseman (great deconstructs of Smells Like Teen Spirt & Kashmir on his Cherry album), Robin Eubanks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 18:55

Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:


Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.

I second the motion. And Magellan is a great band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 19:36
JAN DUKES DE GREY


..check out the track on their page, it's got some nice trombone near the end.. plus its one of the most sublime 18 minutes ever committed to tape.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 21:47
Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:


Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.

I second the motion. And Magellan is a great band.


What Magellan songs have trombone in them? I listened to a few but couldn't find any.

And everybody, thanks a lot . I've looked into a few of the artists you guys recommended and they were all great so far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 22:26


MAGMA on Theusz Hamtaahk XXX Anniversary Concert DVD used it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 06:52
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Shleep by Robert Wyatt features British trombone ace Annie Whitehead, more usually heard playing jazz.



Annie Whitehead is perhaps more significant in putting together the Robert Wyatt tribute concert at Newark (Notts, UK) about 5 years ago with a line-up including Phil Manzanera and recording of which was released by Voiceprint as Soup Song  - a label which reissued her not so jazzy Naked album  (Jasper Van't Hoff in the line up) - on the sleeve of which she was brave enough to appear only wearing her trombone!

I also have a lot of time for James Pankow, trombonist forever with Chicago - and until they sold out - Pankow was responsible for a lot of their early great arrangements. Mother on Chicago 3 is my favourite Pankow trombone moment.

Jazz rock fusion: Dennis Rawlins is somebody to watch out for, as is Joseph Bowie of  Defunkt, Jose Roseman (great deconstructs of Smells Like Teen Spirt & Kashmir on his Cherry album), Robin Eubanks.

(Anybody who likes tombone should check out the masters in duo: J.J.Johnson and Kai Winding)

Good point about Soup Song, Annie Whitehead was also central to the band which performed with Wyatt on the BBC documentary last year. I've never heard Naked, is it any good?

On the jazz/fusion theme, Julian Priester plays trombone on Herbie Hancock's brilliant Mwandishi albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:00
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

[QUOTE=Dick Heath] [QUOTE=Syzygy]

I've never heard Naked, is it any good?

 

I guess with your tastes, Syz you'll like it.

 

BTW forgot the British trombonist based in NYC, who Gary Husband used to great effect along side Randy Brecker in the Force Majeure gigs and recording.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:04
Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:


Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:

Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.


I second the motion. And Magellan is a great band.


What Magellan songs have trombone in them? I listened to a few but couldn't find any.


I can't think of specific song names atm, but there's quite a lot of trombone on the "Test of Wills" album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:32
Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:

Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:


Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:

Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well.


I second the motion. And Magellan is a great band.


What Magellan songs have trombone in them? I listened to a few but couldn't find any.


I can't think of specific song names atm, but there's quite a lot of trombone on the "Test of Wills" album.


I can't think of any Magellan songs write now, but Trent Gardner plays trombone on Track 4 of the first Explorers Club album (Age of Impact).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:57

In a non-prog context there is Terje Rypdal's 1975 album Odyssey. It features Torbjorn Sunde on trombone throughout, and it often takes the lead lines on what was originally a double album.

There's some blistering guitar work from Rypdal as well - one of his better early albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:02
There is trombone on the title track of Test of Wills and on Hundred Year Flood.

Nick Evans played trombone on King Crimson's Lizard.

Michael Blakesley played trombone on Mcdonald & Giles 1970 LP on the track "Tomorrow's People -- The Children of Today."

Chris Pyne playe 'bone on Peter Sinfireld's Still as a part of the horn section. His ride on The Night People kicks some serious A$$!

Pyne also played with Curved Air and Gordon Giltrap.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:49

Can't think of any examples to add, but this is the sort of thread that makes the Prog Archives forum worth visiting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 10:49

Embryo used trombone on a few albums, played by Werner Aldinger. Try "La Blama Sparozzi" or "Zack Glück".

Annexus Quam used trombone too on their albums "Osmose" and "Beziehungen".



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