Trombone in prog
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Topic: Trombone in prog
Posted By: Ty1020
Subject: Trombone in prog
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 14:59
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It may seem like an odd question, but can anybody think of any prog
songs with trombone in them? I've played trombone for a few years now
and I was trying to think of prog bands who feature trombone, but I
couldn't come up with anything. On a related note, if anybody knows any non-prog bands with great trombone players, I wouldn't mind hearing those as well. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:02
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Magellan would be the obvious answer, their front man Trent Gardner is a trombonist and quite good as well. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:05
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The superb French zeuhl / avant band SHUB NIGGURATH employed a full-
time (bass) trombonist, Véronique Verdier. |
Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:07
Where can I find some of their songs? There are no samples here on PA, unfortunately. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/">
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ColonelClaypool wrote:Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:09
http://www.magellanweb.com/provahyf.htm Their official website. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:09
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Shub Niggurath use trombone extensively - their best album is Les Morts Vont Vite Magma featured trombone on parts of Udu Wudu and Attahk. Western Culture by Henry Cow features some excellent trombone by Anne Marie Roelofs. Shleep by Robert Wyatt features British trombone ace Annie Whitehead, more usually heard playing jazz. Some of Zappa's albums featured trombone, usually played by Bruce Fowler , but it tended to be as part of a bigger horn section. The Grand Wazoo and Make a Jazz Noise Here both feature splendid brass arrangements. Bruce Fowler also played on Captain Beefheart's brilliant Shiny Beast album.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 15:28
Alamaailman Vasarat used trombone on their first two albums, and you can also hear it in Uzva's debut. 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 18:51
Annie Whitehead is perhaps more significant in putting together the Robert Wyatt tribute concert at Newark (Notts, UK) about 5 years ago with a line-up including Phil Manzanera and recording of which was released by Voiceprint as Soup Song - a label which reissued her not so jazzy Naked album (Jasper Van't Hoff in the line up) - on the sleeve of which she was brave enough to appear only wearing her trombone! I also have a lot of time for James Pankow, trombonist forever with Chicago - and until they sold out - Pankow was responsible for a lot of their early great arrangements. Mother on Chicago 3 is my favourite Pankow trombone moment. Jazz rock fusion: Dennis Rawlins is somebody to watch out for, as is Joseph Bowie of Defunkt, Jose Roseman (great deconstructs of Smells Like Teen Spirt & Kashmir on his Cherry album), Robin Eubanks. (Anybody who likes tombone should check out the masters in duo: J.J.Johnson and Kai Winding) |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 18:55
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I second the motion. And Magellan is a great band. ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 19:36
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JAN DUKES DE GREY ..check out the track on their page, it's got some nice trombone near the end.. plus its one of the most sublime 18 minutes ever committed to tape. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 21:47
What Magellan songs have trombone in them? I listened to a few but couldn't find any. And everybody, thanks a lot  . I've looked into a few of the artists you guys recommended and they were all great so far.------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/">
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 22:26
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MAGMA on Theusz Hamtaahk XXX Anniversary Concert DVD used it... ------------- 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 06:52
Good point about Soup Song, Annie Whitehead was also central to the band which performed with Wyatt on the BBC documentary last year. I've never heard Naked, is it any good? On the jazz/fusion theme, Julian Priester plays trombone on Herbie Hancock's brilliant Mwandishi albums. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:00
I guess with your tastes, Syz you'll like it.
BTW forgot the British trombonist based in NYC, who Gary Husband used to great effect along side Randy Brecker in the Force Majeure gigs and recording. |
Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:04
I can't think of specific song names atm, but there's quite a lot of trombone on the "Test of Wills" album. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:32
I can't think of any Magellan songs write now, but Trent Gardner plays trombone on Track 4 of the first Explorers Club album (Age of Impact). ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:57
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In a non-prog context there is Terje Rypdal's 1975 album Odyssey. It features Torbjorn Sunde on trombone throughout, and it often takes the lead lines on what was originally a double album. There's some blistering guitar work from Rypdal as well - one of his better early albums. |
Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:02
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There is trombone on the title track of Test of Wills and on Hundred Year Flood. Nick Evans played trombone on King Crimson's Lizard. Michael Blakesley played trombone on Mcdonald & Giles 1970 LP on the track "Tomorrow's People -- The Children of Today." Chris Pyne playe 'bone on Peter Sinfireld's Still as a part of the horn section. His ride on The Night People kicks some serious A$$! Pyne also played with Curved Air and Gordon Giltrap. ------------- The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:49
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Can't think of any examples to add, but this is the sort of thread that makes the Prog Archives forum worth visiting. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 10:49
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Embryo used trombone on a few albums, played by Werner Aldinger. Try "La Blama Sparozzi" or "Zack Glück". Annexus Quam used trombone too on their albums "Osmose" and "Beziehungen". -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 10:57
Hooray! The Bald Angels aren't dead!  I never got round to thanking Jean for the VDGG concert info, so please relay my thanks, Friede!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:06
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Most welcome. Did you like it? ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:13
You'll find out in my double gig review of VDGG and Faust in issue #1 of the newsletter! 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:33
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And let's not forget the United Jazz- & Rock-Ensemble, which had the great late Albert Mangelsdorff on trombone (who for many years held top poll position in the leading jazz magazines). ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:23
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But of course! |
Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:30
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I didn't see this one mentioned: Nick Evans on Soft Machine -- Third. ------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:52
Newsletter? When do you anticipate this to start? Sounds pretty cool. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:33
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The only one that comes to mind right now is the song OK by Riverside... ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: Progbear
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:02
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Burnin' Red Ivanhoe had a trombonist in the band. I recommend
W.W.W. (if you can find it! I was lucky enough to snag a copy
while it was still in print).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 03:55
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The horn instrument at the start of Caravan's Golf Girl , is that Trombone or Tuba? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 03:58
Get "Test of Wills" CD by Magellan there you find your answer 
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Posted By: Moribund
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 07:08
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I can't believe no-one's mentioned Floyd's Rick Wright. A trombonist as well as a keyboard player (check his instrument out on the Ummagumma equipment spread) he featured this instrument live in the early years. To hear a rare recorded example, check out Biding My Time (on Relics). If this IS him on this track, he ain't bad! Also Ashley Hutchings contributed to several Cardiacs tracks. Lady of the Dancing Water (KC - Lizard) has to be the most obvious example, but I've never warmed to it's bitter-sour contribution to this track. The freeform blowin' on Happy Families is better. ------------- New Progressive Rock Live show now touring UK theatres! www.masterpiecestheconcert.co.uk |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 07:36
Of course the Keith Tippet boys (as I like to call them) played all kinds of brass and woods amomg which trombone. the KTB were: Nick evans - the trombonist (paul rutherford was the other trombonist on the scene - played in Centipede and on a super rare Spedding album called Songs Without Words - japan only release) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 08:24
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trombone - but if I remember rightly, nobody is credited as playing it.......... |
Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 10:42
I did a google search and I found something very interesting about the "trombone" intro in Golf Girl. Maybe it's an urban legend, but read this one! http://www.astro.rug.nl/%7Evogelaar/SINCLAIR/gibdigest.html - http://www.astro.rug.nl/~vogelaar/SINCLAIR/gibdigest.html  I wonder if it's the same on the album??? ------------- The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 10:54
I would suggest Brother Jimmy did since Pye's brother also played sax and flutes. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 11:02
That'll be my guess too. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 11:07
Scatting a trombone? Toughie, and I do not think so , but it is a possibility. When you know that this track describe how he met his wife and the silly but delicious lyrics, scatting vocals doing trombone is not that surprizing! The track is supposedly written by Sinclair (Hastings only wrote Love To Love You on that album) but I saw Hastings claim in concert in Paris four years ago, that this was about him meeting his wife - and it was her birthday that very day. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 13:38
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Bruce Fowler's trombone playing on "Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church)" from Frank Zappa's "Roxy & Elsewhere" live album will totally blow you away. Absolutely amazing. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red"> 
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