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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2004 at 16:56
Originally posted by Grobsch Grobsch wrote:

My list without order

- Phil Collins
- Billy Cobham
- Neil Peart
- Bill Bruford
- Eroc
- Jürgen Rosenthal

Eroc is great so is mani nuemier from GuruGuru
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Points: 4888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2004 at 17:49

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.

In no particular order: Bill Bruford, Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Carl Palmer, Franz DiCioccio (of PFM), Pierre Moerlen.

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BILLY COBHAM!!!!  HE IS JUST INCREDIBLE!!!

He's for the drum what Stanley Clarke is for the bass guitar...a magician!
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2004 at 15:18
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

BILLY COBHAM!!!!  HE IS JUST INCREDIBLE!!!

He's for the drum what Stanley Clarke is for the bass guitar...a magician!

Yep, great drummer, Philippe. I discovered his solo career recently and it really amazed me. I also saw him live two years ago at the "Parc floral" in Vincennes, near Paris, still on top form. Not only is he a good drummer, but as Bruford and Donati, a good composer.
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Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

BILLY COBHAM!!!!  HE IS JUST INCREDIBLE!!!

He's for the drum what Stanley Clarke is for the bass guitar...a magician!

Yeah he's all over the kit and he made the Mahavishnu Orchestra just as much as McLaughlin did. His solo stuff is just great.
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2004 at 23:22

You've got to be kidding me...

The best prog drummer... then and now... at 54 yrs old.. is CARL PALMER

This picture was taken last Nov. in Scotland..



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Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

You've got to be kidding me...

The best prog drummer... then and now... at 54 yrs old.. is CARL PALMER

This picture was taken last Nov. in Scotland..

Palmer is one of my favourite drummers of all time!
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Carl's kit sure has shrunk. He one one of the first to have 20 toms and 5 kettles and around 75 cymbals, not to mention the 15 foot gong.....  
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Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Carl's kit sure has shrunk. He one one of the first to have 20 toms and 5 kettles and around 75 cymbals, not to mention the 15 foot gong.....  

You forgot to mention the church bell

 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Carl's kit sure has shrunk. He one one of the first to have 20 toms and 5 kettles and around 75 cymbals, not to mention the 15 foot gong.....  

You forgot to mention the church bell

and the Spinning Platform complete w/ mirrors!!!!!
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And the extremely heavy drum set by British Steel.. that collapsed a few stages and cost over a few hundred thousand dollars just to insure.  They also had to get medical insurance for the roadies who handled it...

The set that Carl has now is also metal.  It was recently made for him by Jeff Ocheltree (Jon Bonham's old drum tech from the 70s) who is now a drum kit designer for Paiste.  The set is made out of cymbal metal.. thats why as you can see.. the set and the cymbals are all the same color. 

He has toned down his equipment alot.  No more tymps, gongs or glockenspiel. He now plays those parts on the floor toms and cymbals.  He does do this cool balancing cymbal roll trick that is fun to watch.. I think I have a picture of it.. somewhat..

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Pebble/Carl%20Palmer/ CarlShows-Durham-Carl1.jpg
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Carl Palmer is a dwarf compared to Bill Cobham genius!

Jazz drummers are technically superior than the others!!! That's a matter of fact.
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Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Carl Palmer is a dwarf compared to Bill Cobham genius!

Jazz drummers are technically superior than the others!!! That's a matter of fact.

Well Billy Cobham is genius... but I've seen him live quite a few times.. and he never did anything that gave me chills like Carl has on drumset... I've seen Carl in a room alone with just a snare... do things that most humans would find impossible.  Actually I've always thought he was somewhat of an alien.  He has a one hand snare roll that requires this bouncing thumb technique that he taught me some 30 years ago.. and even with a lot of practicing.. I still can't figure it out. 

Carl did a clinic last year with Danny Carey... he blew the poor boy off the stage. Danny was so awed.. he couldn't even play with Carl at the same time.,,,  Thats sort of what Carl did to me.. except I called home when I was 17 and told the folks to sell my drumset...
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Points: 1492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 22:54
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Carl Palmer is a dwarf compared to Bill Cobham genius!

Jazz drummers are technically superior than the others!!! That's a matter of fact.

You damn right. Jazz and blues are the basis of prog rock. Without talented, experienced musicians as Cobham, many prog rock productions could've been oversighted.

Still, my vote goes to Cozy Powell



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How a Tauhd Zaïa can't prefer Christian Vander of MAGMA

.... and don't forget our french drummer Manu Katche (Peter Gabriel, Sting...)
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all right for VANDER...but for the other guy he is just a good laugh 

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Points: 29317 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 19:29
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Carl Palmer is a dwarf compared to Bill Cobham genius!

Jazz drummers are technically superior than the others!!! That's a matter of fact.

A certain jazz legend by the name of Buddy Rich had great respect for Palmer even once inviting him on stage to play with his orchestra.Carl didn't dissapoint! Carl Palmer circa 1973-1974 was a totally awesome player.

 
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    There are so many great drummers that It's difficult to say who is the best.My choice is Carl Palmer.Then Terry Bozzio,Billy Cobham I think nobody mentioned Jon Hiseman.He was really great drummer.Somebody said that Carl Palmer is a dwarf?This must be a joke.
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Points: 3597 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2004 at 05:25

LENNY WHITE!!!...an impressive and really versatile drummer (played notably in Return to Forever and for Miles...)...Carl Palmer is technically fade compared to him



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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2004 at 09:45
I doubt Lenny would think so...
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