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Points: 1881 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:04
Can't give one song that defines prog (although if pushed CTTE might be the nearest thing...). Can maybe give a song that is a good example of prog.
 On that basis I'd suggest something like: Heart of the Sunrise, Firth of Fifth, or maybe Starless.

Assuming the audience is not familiar with prog the suggestion of "Gates of Delirium" is a bit risky.....
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Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Can't give one song that defines prog (although if pushed CTTE might be the nearest thing...). Can maybe give a song that is a good example of prog.
 On that basis I'd suggest something like: Heart of the Sunrise, Firth of Fifth, or maybe Starless.

Assuming the audience is not familiar with prog the suggestion of "Gates of Delirium" is a bit risky.....

Gates of Delerium is ONLY for those well seasoned in prog!!!!!
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  Gates of Delirium

 It is meant to be definitive rather than easily understood by the uninitiated
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Why not going back to the source and play "In The Court of The Crimson King" side one?

1) 21st Century Schizoid Man

Starts with weird whispered noise, then suddenly explodes in a mix of jazz, rock and pionnering electronic effects to finish in a delirium of sounds. Rythm changes are frequent and unexpected.

2) I talked to the Wind

From furor to accoustic gentleness, from distorted guitars and saxes to aerial flute and typical "prog" countertime drumming, merging into

3) Epitaph

Prototypical symphonico-mellotronic epic

That's all prog, for sure
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Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

  Gates of Delirium

 It is meant to be definitive rather than easily understood by the uninitiated


To me, that smacks a bit of "prog-elite"!  I think it's a great track but it is an acquired taste and I don't think it's particularly representative.
I also have memories of playing it in 6th form school common room and boy, did it bomb. 
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Originally posted by rockandrail rockandrail wrote:

Why not going back to the source and play "In The Court of The Crimson King" side one?



I agree to an extent...it seems a Medley or a series of extracts set up as a suite would work better to convey the overall mindset of the format. Something to allow for multiple songs within one...


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Another suggestion: you play "YMCA" by Village People. Then you play anything else. whatever you play next will sound prog
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:31
I don't think you can define a whole genre through a single song. Anyway, if I were to choose, I'd pick KC's Epitaph - at least as far as symphonic prog is concerned.
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Prog is to diverse to be defined by one song. But I always considered In the Court of the Crimson King as an Archetypical prog song 
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If I HAD TO pick one, it would be

KNOTS

by Gentle Giant
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Echos by Pink Floyd.
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The one song for me that would sum up prog really well  is `Heart Of The Sunrise.' This is one track that is alternately gorgeous and frenetic. Yet within the frenzied parts, the musicianship is quite controlled.The soft passages of `Love comes to you' are anice contrast to the blazing guitar riff by Mr. Howe. And Bruford`s drums are controlled ,yet dynamic. As good as Alan White is,he has never been able to better Bruford`s playing on this track, especially with all the paradiddles Bruford undergoes. Squire`s bas splaying is exemplary , Wakeamn`s mellotron is ethereal and atmospheric, and this is one of Jon Anderson`s best vocal performaces. He`s very low key on the first few verses, and on the last verse,his vocal performance simply soars like clouds above the heavens.. Wonderful track. If someone were to ask me what prog is about, I wouldn`t say a word and point that person in the direction of listening to this..



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Originally posted by Crushed Aria Crushed Aria wrote:

Rush - 2112

Yes, 2112 or Xanadu.
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you shouldn't try and pick a song you should go for an album that defines it - in other words - Court of the Crimson King - mind you it probably needs 'On The Run' by Pink Floyd to completely make it the piece.
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God, by group would have been easier! I agree that not one song defines the genre - perhaps an album (or am I getting myself into deeper waters there??!)

For me, it would be between Close To The Edge, Supper's ready or even Awaken.

 

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"The Advent of Panurge" is the first song I had heard by Gentle Giant and the song that inspired me to check out all the other offerings of classic prog. 

Though Relayer was the first prog album I had ever listened to.  If the topic was on album instead of song I'd probably choose Relayer.

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Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

  Gates of Delirium

 It is meant to be definitive rather than easily understood by the uninitiated

 

This would get my vote too. I saw the Yes tribute band Fragile last night. The one piece that my hair stand on end was during a medley when they made the transition from "the fish" into Gates of Delirium including the "soon" passage. Despite playing the whole Close to the Edge album, it was Gates that was the all too brief highlight.

Superb show all round by the way. Two and a half hours of live Yes played by excellent musicians.
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Supper's Ready or Heart of the Sunrise. Flip a coin. Both of these songs hold so much of what Prog is and what it can do. I have used both to expose many people to Prog. I have also used A Passion Play which would fit either song or album catagory.
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