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horza
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Joined: August 31 2005
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 14:42 |
lets have a classic 100 and a modern 100
have i said that before ???
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 14:51 |
Marc Baum wrote:
To say that Genesis are poor compared to ELP, is possibly the lack
of overview or fanboy-ish attitude. I like both bands, but simply
count Genesis higher in importance for the genre with their best
Gabriel-era records.
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Quality of albums aside you think Genesis is higher in importance to
the genre than ELP. Curious to your reasoning on that (or
anyone's for that matter)
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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omri
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Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Israel
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 15:15 |
Well,
There's a way to say your opinion. For example I love King crimson but I appreciate Ivan's different opinion for 2 reasons : first, he does not saying "that's my opinion so it's got to be true". He respects other opinions than his. Second, he listen to the music (and read the words) before he make up his mind.
I would strongly suggest to the guy who started this thread to learn something here.
And if we are talking about the way the top 100 list is made I think I know how. You time the logarithmus of "number of ratings" by the squared "average rate". This gives much more power to the high rates than the amount of ratings. The list in this algorythm is much more diverse and interesting than the one we had before. Still my list (as everyones I guess) will look a beat different but nobody (not even Ivan) heared all prog music exist.
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omri
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 15:27 |
omri wrote:
Well,
There's a way to say your opinion. For example I love King crimson
but I appreciate Ivan's different opinion for 2 reasons : first, he
does not saying "that's my opinion so it's got to be true". He respects
other opinions than his. Second, he listen to the music (and read the
words) before he make up his mind.
I would strongly suggest to the guy who started this thread to learn something here.
And if we are talking about the way the top 100 list is made I
think I know how. You time the logarithmus of "number of ratings" by
the squared "average rate". This gives much more power to the high
rates than the amount of ratings. The list in this algorythm is much
more diverse and interesting than the one we had before. Still my list
(as everyones I guess) will look a beat different but nobody (not even
Ivan) heared all prog music exist. |
hmmm, taking into account likes and dislikes is one thing. How about an
'attempted' rational view of the albums and artists which tries to take
criteria such as influence and innovation into them. Check this
out and tell me what you think. We have a rather small pool of
people that input these lists (acutally 3 people who are the main
input), so don't go crazy if you see something out of place ha ha
hah. I tend to think that looking at the bigger picture of the
albums and groups is just as interesting as the music itself. For
what it's worth, you all have helped a great deal. Many ideas, and much
informatiion tossed around there have gone into these lists.
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=8284
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Drew
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 15:31 |
I say we have the bottom 100 list! That would sure piss some people off- but hey- it could tell you what NOT to buy!
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 15:35 |
Drew wrote:
I say we have the bottom 100 list! That would sure
piss some people off- but hey- it could tell you what NOT to
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ha hahah ha, that's not a bad idea
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Winterfamily
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Joined: March 13 2005
Location: Spain
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:20 |
The only logical reason i see to dislike King Crimson is because Robert
Fripp's looks in the "Red" cover match exactly those of a civil
servant: round glasses, small beard and that "don't bother me, i'm
busy" gesture . Apart from that, they'd be in my top 100 for sure!!
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