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    Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:11

Being new to this site i have been over the many pages and comments made by many. Some i agree with some i don't. Wel,l after all we are individuals. But i can't believe the top 100 so called prog albums, Genesis have so many in there (not a bad band, but not worthy of the excessive amount). How is this list gathered? Do peolpe get together in a room and pull album names out of  a hat, or is it only cetain individuals who get to name their fave albums?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:14
genesis is completly worthy and a leader of 70's progressive rock(im talking about gabriel genesis)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:17

Genesis is definitely one of those top definitive Prog Rock bands of the 70s!

One of the best bands ever! (With Gabriel and Hackett)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:25

Gabriel era Genesis made the best prog ever!!! Yes did too, but CTTE is #1, so it's fair

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:29
I totally disagree, there are much better, but more maligned band,s than the boring arty farty Genesis. Some of their stuff is ok, but some is pure pretentious nonsense, and definitely bland.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:44

Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

I totally disagree, there are much better, but more maligned band,s than the boring arty farty Genesis. Some of their stuff is ok, but some is pure pretentious nonsense, and definitely bland.

Sorry, but ELP = pure pretntiousness.

I still like 'em, though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 20:57
The top 100 is complied based on the ratings and reviews provided by the people of this site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:00

It's easy to see that prog's 3 greatest (Yes, Genesis & Pink Floyd) are very high in the list and with several records in the top 100. That fact is absolutely ok and earned, because they are representative for prog in it's most important, defining individualitistic aspects. For example: Yes - the virtuosity; Genesis - the lyricism - Pink Floyd - the monumentalism.

The list is based on ratings and I think that the chosen ones are objectively seen as perfect as it gets (in prog's point of view). There aren't a couple of people who rate them so extensively often and high, they are just very popular and enjoy a high status to prog-listeners and fans, or music-lovers in general. There are also several people out there who complain about them and think they are overrated, but they seem to lack the "masterpiece-ear" and can't hear the timeless genius inside of the music. I absolutely agree, that music is still a matter of taste, but with the top ranked albums on here there are only few people, who give them few or zero attention - the most know what it's all about and don't think it's hype - so that must speak for the over-the-top quality of the records.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:08
Nonsense.........Genesis are poor compared to ELP, bland arty farty types who bore most with their bland music i.e. Favouritism seems endemic on this site, rather than open and unbiased accounts. As for any DT album to rate higher than an ELP album, would be blasphemous in any other world. I have grave doubts over this site being a true and unbiased site, favouritism seems benign.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:09

Genesis had a sound (or "mood" if you like) about them that has become synonomous with progressive rock.  There's much more to prog than that, I know, but it's just that a lot of people like that sound (myself included), so their albums get high ratings.

Now ELP are another of my favorite bands, but they're all about technique.  That doesn't cut it for some.  I like them, prog wouldn't be the same without them, but I can see why Genesis recieves more favour. 

Just my take on the issue.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:11

Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

Nonsense.........Genesis are poor compared to ELP, bland arty farty types who bore most with their bland music i.e. Favouritism seems endemic on this site, rather than open and unbiased accounts. As for any DT album to rate higher than an ELP album, would be blasphemous in any other world. I have grave doubts over this site being a true and unbiased site, favouritism seems benign.

And no, Genesis don't bore most.  You can't deny that they have a huge fan base around here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:14

Artsy Fartsy????

Strange description in a prog' site, that's the way POP lovers use to call all Prog' Rock.

That's the problem when people mix quality with their own taste, I dislike most King Crimson  (For example) but I would be a prog' ignorant to say they are mediocre, they are all excelent musicians, the fact I dislike their music is just a matter of personal taste.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:14
Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

Nonsense.........Genesis are poor compared to ELP, bland arty farty types who bore most with their bland music i.e. Favouritism seems endemic on this site, rather than open and unbiased accounts. As for any DT album to rate higher than an ELP album, would be blasphemous in any other world. I have grave doubts over this site being a true and unbiased site, favouritism seems benign.


What the hell.  People rate albums as they see them:  Hence, higher ratings to what the prefer, lower ratings to what they do not prefer.  Your attitude implies that *you* are right and everyone else is wrong, and an attitude like that won't carry you very far here.  Good day sir.

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:23
But what people?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:24
Everyone.  The Top 100 is based on every review submitted, and no one is barred from making reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:31

Apart from music lovers.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:31
Oh, music lovers are barred from making reviews?  Do explain, son. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:33

Look at the top 100

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:34
Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

Look at the top 100

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 21:34
Dream_orchestra- you are confusing how the ratings work on this site. They are generated, automatically, from reviews on the works which are submitted by the members of the site. There is no little group of people cloistered together, deciding on who should be in the list. This is the only site I know that does this reasonably fairly. There is some bias, but if enough reviews are submitted the bias will even out to a true accounting
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