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horza
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Topic: Best non-english language prog ?? Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:25 |
Its apparent from looking at where everyone is from and from reading posts that english language prog albums are obviously universally popular
i was wondering what the best prog album is which is in a language other than english - any ideas ??
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:32 |
Any album by Magma, the best being Mekanik Destructiw Kommandoh
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:33 |
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floyd68
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:39 |
gaelic sounds great - however I fear RUNRIG are not prog
in that case let's go for swedish with TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET
or maybe german with HOELDERLIN
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:45 |
Its hard to say... one should be at least bilingual to know how to answer. Somethings might sound ok to a foreigner's ear, but pehaps a little knowledge of the language would show some sintaxis imperfections, or bad lyrics (for example, my father used to love the first albums by The Beattles, until he came across some translations. After that, he has tried to focus on the music, but the memory of those translations...). The same way with a book. Some literary resources can't be meassured or appreciated without some additional information.
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eugene
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:48 |
Many albums from too many French and Italian symphonic prog bands to name them all here
And of course After Crying.
I wonder if Magma would exactly fit into description of non-english language ???
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Sean2989
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:52 |
You Know I've kinna considered Rammstien as prog band so.....
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horza
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:55 |
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Zac M
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:59 |
eugene wrote:
Many albums from too many French and Italian symphonic prog bands to name them all here
And of course After Crying.
I wonder if Magma would exactly fit into description of non-english language ??? |
The question involved a non-English speaking band, and Magma's lyrics
are all in Kobaian. Yes, it's a made up language, but it still isn't
english.
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goose
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:06 |
Magma fit in, for sure. Whether they're my favourite non-English language or not I couldn't say...
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Peter
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:08 |
It really depends on what kind of English-language prog you prefer.
German is good for some, Italian for others (and that itself is generalizing, because each of those nations produces diverse prog).
But, in general:
Like "symphonic," prettier, more classical "traditional/old-school" prog? I do, BTW. (Genesis, early Crimson, ELP, etc.) Try Italy, and bands like PFM, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Locanda Della Fate, etc.
I love PFM!
Like spacey, weirder psychedelic prog, like early Floyd, etc? (I don't, really.) Try some German stuff like early Amon Duul, Can, early Tangerine Dream, etc. (Others here know much more about this stuff than I -- Baldfriede and Philippe come to mind immediately.)
Of course, other nations like France produce good prog too, but I'm less familiar with their stuff.
Magma are French, but they are just too weird for my tastes, but some here swear by them.
There's good Scandinavian, southern and east-European prog too, of course, but I'd start with the Italians and the Germans.
Read some reviews, listen to some stuff -- jump in, but I say (based on my own experience, and that of others here) start with 70s Italian prog.
Have fun exploring!
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horza
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:11 |
^ i will - PFM is on the list for sure , as are some others
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:12 |
PSICOTROPIA FROM SPAIN!!!!!!
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hegelec
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:13 |
Anything Quebec-prog, especially Harmonium and Opus-5!
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:17 |
Ive always considered PFM the peak of that Italian progressive
movement, and especially the album "L'Isola di Niente", it's just
about pefect, and not as derivative sounding or "prog" cliché as
some others by them. Although "Is My Face on Straight" is in
English, a hilarious satire on the upper class, the rest is sung
gorgeously in Italian. They redid the whole album later in
English as "The World became the World", with new lyrics by
Pete Sinfield, but these songs in the original Italian are
priceless. Perhaps the most beautiful progressive ballad of that
entire era is "Dolcissima Maria" (later redone as "Just Look
Away").
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 17:19 |
hegelec wrote:
Anything Quebec-prog, especially Harmonium and Opus-5! |
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:09 |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:42 |
Triana-El patio (Spain) : moving wailing undertone from the flamenco singers
Bacamarte-Depois do fim (Brasil) : wonderful sound and emotion of the Portuguese language
Pageant-La mosaique de la reverie (Japan) : beautiful vocal effort from Japan (in general too squeaky!)
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:43 |
I'd say Italy's PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi) and France's Malicorne (prog. folk)
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honganji
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:55 |
I don't mind which language is used in an album. Speaking about my thousands of collection, English albums are minority in comparison with non-English albums. Especially Japanese bands/musicians usually prefer Japanese rather than English. Quebec bands/musicians have same style.
The most favorite album is Floret Silva/Floret Silva (1978/1985). This album was recorded in 1978 and released in 1985 from Belle Antique (JAPAN). These tracks are sung in Latin, Italian, Germany. I like Latin lyrics.
Also I love Emmanuel Booz/Le Jour Ou Les Vaches ... (1974) This is sung in French. But French albums are common for me in progressive rock.
Magma, Koenjihyakkei, Katra Turana, Demi Semi Quaver, etc are interesting. They invented languages !
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