Best non-english language prog ??
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Topic: Best non-english language prog ??
Posted By: horza
Subject: Best non-english language prog ??
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:25
Its apparent from looking at where everyone is from and from reading posts that english language prog albums are obviously universally popular 
i was wondering what the best prog album is which is in a language other than english - any ideas ?? ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:32
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Any album by Magma, the best being Mekanik Destructiw Kommandoh
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:33
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Premiata Forneria Marconi-Per Un Amico Kaipa-Inget Nytt Under Solen -------------  |
Posted By: floyd68
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:39
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gaelic sounds great - however I fear RUNRIG are not prog
in that case let's go for swedish with TRETTIOÅRIGA KRIGET or maybe german with HOELDERLIN |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:45
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Its hard to say... one should be at least bilingual to know how to answer. Somethings might sound ok to a foreigner's ear, but pehaps a little knowledge of the language would show some sintaxis imperfections, or bad lyrics (for example, my father used to love the first albums by The Beattles, until he came across some translations. After that, he has tried to focus on the music, but the memory of those translations...). The same way with a book. Some literary resources can't be meassured or appreciated without some additional information. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:48
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Many albums from too many French and Italian symphonic prog bands to name them all here And of course After Crying. I wonder if Magma would exactly fit into description of non-english language ??? ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Sean2989
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:52
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You Know I've kinna considered Rammstien as prog band so.....
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:55
nein 
 ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Sean2989 wrote:Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 15:59
The question involved a non-English speaking band, and Magma's lyrics are all in Kobaian. Yes, it's a made up language, but it still isn't english. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:06
| Magma fit in, for sure. Whether they're my favourite non-English language or not I couldn't say... |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:08
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It really depends on what kind of English-language prog you prefer. German is good for some, Italian for others (and that itself is generalizing, because each of those nations produces diverse prog). But, in general: Like "symphonic," prettier, more classical "traditional/old-school" prog? I do, BTW. (Genesis, early Crimson, ELP, etc.) Try Italy, and bands like PFM, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Locanda Della Fate, etc. I love PFM! Like spacey, weirder psychedelic prog, like early Floyd, etc? (I don't, really.) Try some German stuff like early Amon Duul, Can, early Tangerine Dream, etc. (Others here know much more about this stuff than I -- Baldfriede and Philippe come to mind immediately.) Of course, other nations like France produce good prog too, but I'm less familiar with their stuff. Magma are French, but they are just too weird for my tastes, but some here swear by them. There's good Scandinavian, southern and east-European prog too, of course, but I'd start with the Italians and the Germans. Read some reviews, listen to some stuff -- jump in, but I say (based on my own experience, and that of others here) start with 70s Italian prog. Have fun exploring! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:11
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^ i will - PFM is on the list for sure , as are some others ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:12
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PSICOTROPIA FROM SPAIN!!!!!!
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Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:13
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Anything Quebec-prog, especially Harmonium and Opus-5! ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 16:17
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Ive always considered PFM the peak of that Italian progressive
movement, and especially the album "L'Isola di Niente", it's just about pefect, and not as derivative sounding or "prog" cliché as some others by them. Although "Is My Face on Straight" is in English, a hilarious satire on the upper class, the rest is sung gorgeously in Italian. They redid the whole album later in English as "The World became the World", with new lyrics by Pete Sinfield, but these songs in the original Italian are priceless. Perhaps the most beautiful progressive ballad of that entire era is "Dolcissima Maria" (later redone as "Just Look Away"). 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 17:19
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Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:09
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TRIANA!!!
Triana (El Patio) 
its just amazing! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:42
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Triana-El patio (Spain) : moving wailing undertone from the flamenco singers Bacamarte-Depois do fim (Brasil) : wonderful sound and emotion of the Portuguese language Pageant-La mosaique de la reverie (Japan) : beautiful vocal effort from Japan (in general too squeaky!) |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:43
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I'd say Italy's PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi) and France's Malicorne (prog. folk)
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Posted By: honganji
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:55
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I don't mind which language is used in an album. Speaking about my thousands of collection, English albums are minority in comparison with non-English albums. Especially Japanese bands/musicians usually prefer Japanese rather than English. Quebec bands/musicians have same style. The most favorite album is Floret Silva/Floret Silva (1978/1985). This album was recorded in 1978 and released in 1985 from Belle Antique (JAPAN). These tracks are sung in Latin, Italian, Germany. I like Latin lyrics. Also I love Emmanuel Booz/Le Jour Ou Les Vaches ... (1974) This is sung in French. But French albums are common for me in progressive rock. Magma, Koenjihyakkei, Katra Turana, Demi Semi Quaver, etc are interesting. They invented languages !
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Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 19:08
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I'd add The Mars Volta. They sing some of their songs in spanish (particularly on their last album). And they sound like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and King Crimson put together (three of my favorite bands of all time). |
Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 19:28
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ITALIAN: ------------- Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien. |
Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 22:19
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Metamorfosi - Inferno Banco del mutuo soccorso - First 4 albums Premiatta - First 3 albums Locanda delle fate - Force le lucciole non si amno piu Periferia del mondo - Periferia del mondo Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Quella vechia la locanda - Their two albums Le orme - Uomo di pezza Something I love of Italian Prog, is that the texture, feeling and passion in their music is overwhelming. Is really honest. |
Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 22:22
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Off the top of my head: Area -- Crac Can -- Tago Mago (that ain't English!)
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 22:23
What's progressive about Rammstein?  They have a keyboardist, but from what I've heard by them, I don't see any progressive tendencies.Anyways, Mr. Bungle has some stuff that's not in english (Ma Meeshka Mow Skwoz comes to mind) which is quite good. My favourite non-english band, though, is easily Sigur Ros. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: Hamatai
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 04:55
You must be joking. Though, psicotropia are not bad. The best are Magma, Anglagard and Il Balletto di bronzo. |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 05:01
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Banco del mutuo soccorso < fantastico, ciao. ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 05:01
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Italian prog for me ... most albums I've heard so far are superb ... PFM, LDF, QVL, Banco ... you know the drill ... ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 05:07
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Tangerine Dream! most of their albums are instrumental, so not English even album names are mostly in German and other languages in their early period wish Can and Guru Guru didn't sing in English, so that I could mantion them! I still have one more German band to fit in: Amon Düül II. Phallus Dei and Tanz der Lemminge are just great!!!! ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Doesburger
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 05:10
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How would you define "best"?? THE best? Meaning ONE?? And then "best prog" means??? Best prog band/CD/song?????? I'm not very clear on what you want to know. But... for me, there can be only one "Top Band" : Magma. |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 05:14
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As a French speaking person, who loves the French language, I always had problems with rock (of all sorts, not only prog) sung in French. The rythm of the French language doesn't fit the rythm of rock very well. I always have the strange sensation that the singer is in another dimension than the band. Ange is a band I really love. I have most of their albums, saw them several times in concert. But it took me time to get accustomed to the French singing. To a larger extend, I feel the same with other non English languages sung rock songs. Don't ask me why. It's just my ears. ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:04
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Some Finnish selections from me!
ALAMAAILMAN VASARAT "kinaporin Kalifaatti" : This was done with Tuomari Nurmio, who is a famous Finnish singer-songwriter. I think that many of the "real fans" of Alamaailman vasarat didn't like this. Luckily I'm not a fan of the band, so I enjoyed this lots!
PEKKA STRENG (with Tasavallan Presidentti) "Magneettimiehen Kuolema" : Folk rock with minor psychedelic elements and witthy lyrics, which ofcourse don't open to anybody else but finnish speaking people...
TABULA RASA "Tabula Rasa": Medicore prog rock album, with influences of Uriah Heep and Jethro Tull. Silvennoinen is a great guitarrists, and the lyricist Mikko Alatalo is nowadays a meber of the parliament, making decisions agains those principles he preached during the 70's. Well, people have a choice to change!
SUOMEN TALVISOTA "Underground-Rock": More psych rock than prog. An absolute gem! Most of the lyrics were written only in purpose to attack normal values of the late 60's Finland, but there's some great surrealism included too! Features M.A.Numminen and Rauli Somerjoki, both famous Finnish artists. Actually, Rauli WAS as hes already dead... |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:12
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Triana (Spain) Anglagard (Sweden) Far East Family Band (Japan) Locanda delle fate (Italy) ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:17
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Sigur Ros, Taal, Jaga Jazzist, Magma, PFM and of course there's loads of Kraut rockers. ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: maribor
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 07:26
| Definitely Italian (70s) prog: Area, Banco, PFM, Orme, Locanda delle fate, QVL, Biglietto , Balletto, Arti, ... |