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BebieM 
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:35 |
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Ok, more of a philosophical question:
Do you think there can be such a thing as perfect music?
And if yes, would humans be able to discover it eventually?
And any ideas how it would look like?
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Arsillus
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:58 |
Perfect music has already been made...
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threefates
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 00:29 |
^ I agree to that
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Reverie
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 02:32 |
Well i suppose that depends on what ones definition of 'perfect' is.
For me, i haven't heard the perfect song yet, and i'm not sure i will. One thing i do know is that if there is even to be a song i consider to be perfect it would have to have been created by me. I'm the only person who can completely and sucessfully convey my idea of perfection to music.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 03:08 |
Humans? Playing perfect music?
Such a silly notion. 
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Epic.
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nacho
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 03:26 |
It's done already:
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BaldJean
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 06:12 |
 nacho wrote:
It's done already:
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My sentiments exactly, but one will get you ten 99% of the people in here have no idea who that is. 
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goose
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 06:36 |
BaldJean wrote:
My sentiments exactly, but one will get you ten 99% of the people in here have no idea who that is.
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Rubbish!
The perfect music will never be written for me because beauty can only be achieved during the search for perfection. Once it's reached there's no point in doing any more music. King Crimson, the Soft Machine, Coltrane, Marillion, Mahler, Elgar, Devil Doll, Pain of Salvation and several others come pretty close.
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Myrrh
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 09:46 |
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it depends on the point of view. On the people, their moods and tastes.
Bach's c minor part in his well-tempered-clavier is perfect for me right now.
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philippe
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 10:24 |
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The perfect music is the sound of silence
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nacho
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 10:38 |
philippe wrote:
The perfect music is the sound of silence |
Progressive silence or just ordinary one?
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tuxon
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 12:28 |
I prefer prog-metal silence
I have yet to listen to the perfect music, but I think Arena achieved it almost with the song Sirens.
It is a known fact that no man can resist the Sirens song
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sigod
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 12:35 |
Indeed. Perfect music is here:
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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synthguy
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:09 |
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All music is perfect.
Music is the perfect expression of an individual, ond/or
individuals.
The perfect language.
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Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest...
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synthguy
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:12 |
BaldJean wrote:
nacho wrote:
It's done already:
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My sentiments exactly, but one will get you ten 99% of
the people in here have no idea who that is.
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..And, by the way, that's a pretty arrogant statement.
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Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest...
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synthguy
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:24 |
synthguy wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
nacho wrote:
It's done already:
[IMG>id=_x0000_i1025
height=500
src="http://benoit.organiste.free.fr/images/Bach.jpg"
width=414>
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My sentiments exactly, but one will get you ten 99% of
the people in here have no idea who that is.
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..And, by the way, that's a pretty arrogant statement.
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Seriously,
I believe that an elitist attitude, and feeling you know
better, or are more cultured, or, more intelligent than
the majority is a limiting perspective.
"I get it, but 99% of THEM don't get it."
After all, this is a prog-rock forum.
What did you expect? Drones?
That's classic.
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Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest...
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Zargus
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:39 |
Thos guys did some perfect pop tunes
But seriusly i think whats perfect music for me dont have to be perfect for everybody else the taste is diffrent for people, but i think we all can agree on that the beatles did some perfect songs dident they?
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maani
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 17:35 |
"Perfect" is such an ugly term... I doubt that there is such a thing as "perfect" music, for the simple reason that (as others have either said or inferred) even "perfection" is in the eyes (or ears...) of the beholder.
I would say, however, that there are arguably some "perfect" songs, at least from the standpoint of composition (music/lyrics), arrangement, production, and, most importantly, overall "effect": everything "perfect," not a note out of place, not a note overplayed, etc. I could probably name quite a few, but Comfortably Numb and 21st Century Schizoid Man come to mind immediately.
Peace.
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Valarius
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 17:42 |
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Dream Theater is perfect music TO ME.
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Cluster One
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:27 |
Most importantly what was "perfect" for me at age 15 is not for me at 30.
I only hope what I consider "perfect" now at 30 will remain so at 45,
but somehow I feel I will be condemned to listen to Adult-oriented soft
pop when I get to that age  
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