Perfect Music
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Topic: Perfect Music
Posted By: BebieM
Subject: Perfect Music
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:35
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Ok, more of a philosophical question: Do you think there can be such a thing as perfect music? And if yes, would humans be able to discover it eventually? And any ideas how it would look like? |
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:58
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Perfect music has already been made...
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 00:29
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^ I agree to that
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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 02:32
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Well i suppose that depends on what ones definition of 'perfect' is. For me, i haven't heard the perfect song yet, and i'm not sure i will. One thing i do know is that if there is even to be a song i consider to be perfect it would have to have been created by me. I'm the only person who can completely and sucessfully convey my idea of perfection to music. |
Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 03:08
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Humans? Playing perfect music? Such a silly notion.  ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 03:26
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It's done already:
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 06:12
My sentiments exactly, but one will get you ten 99% of the people in here have no idea who that is. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
nacho wrote:Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 06:36
Rubbish!
The perfect music will never be written for me because beauty can only be achieved during the search for perfection. Once it's reached there's no point in doing any more music |
Posted By: Myrrh
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 09:46
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it depends on the point of view. On the people, their moods and tastes. Bach's c minor part in his well-tempered-clavier is perfect for me right now. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 10:24
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The perfect music is the sound of silence ------------- 
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 10:38
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Progressive silence or just ordinary one?
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 12:28
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I prefer prog-metal silence I have yet to listen to the perfect music, but I think Arena achieved it almost with the song Sirens.
It is a known fact that no man can resist the Sirens song ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 12:35
Indeed. Perfect music is here: ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: synthguy
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:09
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All music is perfect.
Music is the perfect expression of an individual, ond/or individuals. The perfect language. ------------- Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest... |
Posted By: synthguy
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:12
..And, by the way, that's a pretty arrogant statement. ------------- Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest... |
Posted By: synthguy
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:24
Seriously, I believe that an elitist attitude, and feeling you know better, or are more cultured, or, more intelligent than the majority is a limiting perspective. "I get it, but 99% of THEM don't get it." After all, this is a prog-rock forum. What did you expect? Drones? That's classic. ------------- Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest... |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 16:39
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Thos guys did some perfect pop tunes But seriusly i think whats perfect music for me dont have to be perfect for everybody else the taste is diffrent for people, but i think we all can agree on that the beatles did some perfect songs dident they? ------------- 
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 17:35
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"Perfect" is such an ugly term... I would say, however, that there are arguably some "perfect" songs, at least from the standpoint of composition (music/lyrics), arrangement, production, and, most importantly, overall "effect": everything "perfect," not a note out of place, not a note overplayed, etc. I could probably name quite a few, but Comfortably Numb and 21st Century Schizoid Man come to mind immediately. Peace. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 17:42
| Dream Theater is perfect music TO ME. |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:27
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Most importantly what was "perfect" for me at age 15 is not for me at 30. I only hope what I consider "perfect" now at 30 will remain so at 45, but somehow I feel I will be condemned to listen to Adult-oriented soft pop when I get to that age   ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: LDGuy
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:59
My thoughts exactly. |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 22:37
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Ok, good answers people. However, but what if there is a melody which is perfect, and is considered to be so by everyone not depending on taste. It is obvious that such thing doesn't exist (yet), but do you think music can seriously reach perfection, or will there always be ways to improve? (again, I'm trying to treat that question in a more philosophical way, music as we know it now can't be considered perfect) |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 22:41
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Bebie: Actually, if memory serves (and, unfortunately, at my age, it doesn't always... Peace. |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 22:59
| Perfect isnt something that is to be obtained, its to be strived for. |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 23:59
Music and anything that is basically perception and individual taste is always going to be different for each person. I can safely say for me, that ELP's Closer to Believing (among other of their songs) is for me.. perfection.  ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 00:17
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With all my love to DT, they are not and cannot be the best of all time. The answer is simple:
Led Zeppelin! They are... perfect, like Bach. I had that association many times, now you guys reminded me...
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 12:50
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none music is perfect, because none is made by god's hands, only people attracted by the search of sublime and transcendance can access to perfection...shamanic music, drone music maybe -------------
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 13:20
If you look at my statement again it was said with a twinkle, i.e. tongue in cheek, so it was not arrogant at all. ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: ExquisiteCorpse
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 15:50
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I think whats perfect at one moment can be not perfect the next, and vice versa. As for whether or not there can be perfect music at any time, idk. What do you think would happen if you listened to "perfect music"? would you, like, explode? ------------- No, her name is not Beatrice. Yes, it's true: Movon invented cancer. Josh and Peanut for President in '06! |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 15:53
| I accept that at a certain time, a certain piece of music might feel perfect for me, but there is no music that I could find perfect at any time. |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 16:25
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I'm far from finding the perfect music to me, but Can and Godspeed might be be the closest (a mix of the two would be GREAT!). I want weird, really psychedelic, but melodic music... wish me good luck fi,ding that... You probably need to make the perfect music by yourself... but it wont be the perfect music to others... from a certain point, every music is perfect I guess... ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: June 03 2005 at 21:19
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------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 10:03
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"perfect" progressive rock music ? imho anyway...   |
Posted By: Winterfamily
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 10:55
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Ok, here's my pick:  This is the closest to a perfect pop record I've heard in all my life. However, it's not entirely perfect, but who is... |