Yes: Cure for the Insomniac!

I know its better to ignore this attention-seeking stuff, but please stop using the "real musician" joke. I'm quite certain that the members of the bands you condemned with your "reviews" are much more accomplished than you'll ever be (and i wont be surprised if you turn out to be some 14 year old without any experience in music). I also happen to think that many albums considered to be prog classics are not the best works in the genre, but i'm not whining about it

DT15

In anticipation of more informed reviews of albums you like and dont like...

Your musical ability only enables you to criticize music at a technical level. Music is a form of art at the end of the day, and whether or not art has any worth is down to it's audience and the effect it has on them. Artists like Yes, Genesis and Dream Theater are all of equal worth for this reason, although they are clearly not ALL to everyones taste. Express your views in a balanced way and you will make friends round here easily, jump in feet first, arrogantly rubbishing artists without foundation and you will find the opposite.

You do have our attention, but as has been pointed out, you went about it the wrong way. I would like to read your real reviews of any album you choose. Good reviews get peoples attention too, you know...

DT15 wrote: Citanul wrote: DT15 wrote: I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. And what exactly is so special about your reviews that you have to make such a show about it?  What makes you more qualified than the hundreds of other people who have reviewed albums on this site?  If you don't like Yes or Genesis, then it's very easy to create a forum topic expressing your view.  The way you did it is completely inappropriate. Thx for the question Citanul. When did I ever say my reviews were so special? Someone asked me to explain why and I agreed. And for the 10th time, I know it was inapporprate, that was the whole point. Look what I've started now. If I didn't do what I did there would be this much commotion and I enjoy commotion. Are you going to discredit my personality now? And no, how do you know this my first day as a forum member?

Right under your name it says....Joined Oct 4,2005.

Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.

I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not to my taste.

"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that bad.

DT15 wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: DT15 wrote: Citanul wrote: DT15 wrote: I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. And what exactly is so special about your reviews that you have to make such a show about it?  What makes you more qualified than the hundreds of other people who have reviewed albums on this site?  If you don't like Yes or Genesis, then it's very easy to create a forum topic expressing your view.  The way you did it is completely inappropriate. Thx for the question Citanul. When did I ever say my reviews were so special? Someone asked me to explain why and I agreed. And for the 10th time, I know it was inapporprate, that was the whole point. Look what I've started now. If I didn't do what I did there would be this much commotion and I enjoy commotion. Are you going to discredit my personality now? And no, how do you know this my first day as a forum member?   Right under your name it says....Joined Oct 4,2005.   Right, so you're saying it's impossible for me to have several names?

You do know that multiple identities are a huge NO-NO here,don't you???????????

It has been quite shocking the way you promoted your point of view DT. And IMO it is  remarkable the equilibrated answer of the Collaborators. I believe that it would be quite difficult for you to be taken any serious after your exploit.

The fact that annoyed me was not about yours like/dislikes, but  that you put some kind of authority because you are a composition graduated.

I can accept from you the experience and knowledge aquired during your studies and come with technical analysis of how challenging or not are some Classic pieces of progressive music. I can accept also a technical comparition about groups, in terms of use of contemporary musical theory. But is there any conceptualization about music being "boring" or interesting" ?

In my point of seeing this was an unnecessary stating meant to show off your presumption.

At least I felt it in this way. Musicians play music. Listeners listen to it. Nor one or the other are superior,both are educated. With or without Academy. Just a matter of respect.

I studied music in my own way

Blacksword wrote: DT15 In anticipation of more informed reviews of albums you like and dont like... Your musical ability only enables you to criticize music at a technical level. Music is a form of art at the end of the day, and whether or not art has any worth is down to it's audience and the effect it has on them. Artists like Yes, Genesis and Dream Theater are all of equal worth for this reason, although they are clearly not ALL to everyones taste. Express your views in a balanced way and you will make friends round here easily, jump in feet first, arrogantly rubbishing artists without foundation and you will find the opposite. You do have our attention, but as has been pointed out, you went about it the wrong way. I would like to read your real reviews of any album you choose. Good reviews get peoples attention too, you know...

Do you think I actually am not aware of that?

Please get it out of your minds that I'm an amateur reviewer or musician please. Maybe I should have introduced myself formally. But arrogance is a factor

thrang theng wrote: It has been quite shocking the way you promoted your point of view DT. And IMO it is  remarkable the equilibrated answer of the Collaborators. I believe that it would be quite difficult for you to be taken any serious after your exploit. The fact that annoyed me was not about yours like/dislikes, but  that you put some kind of authority because you are a composition graduated. I can accept from you the experience and knowledge aquired during your studies and come with technical analysis of how challenging or not are some Classic pieces of progressive music. I can accept also a technical comparition about groups, in terms of use of contemporary musical theory. But is there any conceptualization about music being "boring" or interesting" ? In my point of seeing this was an unnecessary stating meant to show off your presumption. At least I felt it in this way. Musicians play music. Listeners listen to it. Nor one or the other are superior,both are educated. With or without Academy. Just a matter of respect. I studied music in my own way

I'm sorry, do I really have to explain myself again. sigh.

ok for the last time: my first post was a joke to grab attention. Of course I can't PROVE something is boring.

DT15 wrote: [But arrogance is a factor

A factor of what? Have you read my previous post?