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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 31
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Topic: Yes: Cure for the Insomniac! Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:37 |
I am sick and tired of listening to you old folk talk about how you don't enjoy quality acts such as Dream Theater. One reviewer said it's not to his taste...ok then that's fine. So let me have my say now. If i want to fall asleep or have a good laugh, I'll listen to Yes or Genesis or Pink Floyd (etc). C'mon you oldies...this music is not as great as you all say it is. I am a 25 year old bachelor of music composition graduate and have been playing the keyboard, guitar and drums for a little over 10 yrs, so I AM a musician, unlike most of you. But instead of going into a lengthy essay about why this music is just plain boring, I'll just do what so many of you people do and say 'it's not to my taste'. So there you have it, I voiced my opinion and I don't care if you don't care but I am honest to God when I say that crappy old school prog rock bores me to tears and no matter how many times I listen to Yes' 'Close to the Edge', I will never understand why you guys get boners over it. The music is nothing earth shattering. But it's fine, if you oldies get so excited and this sorta stuff makes your hair stand up...well that's fine...but seriously now, just make sure you know there are educated musicians like myself who simply find it all boring.
Steve.
PS: I posted this on the front page but I guess no one reads it.
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philippe
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Joined: March 14 2004
Location: noosphere
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Points: 3597
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:40 |
you are 25 year old and you react like a child my friend!
now go back to your room and learn to listen to properly the classics of the genre!
Amen!!!
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:40 |
Hello DT15
I've just posted your review of Foxtrot in a thread. Would you like to take this opportunity to elaborate on what you think of albums such as Foxtrot, Close to the Edge etc. Perhaps you'd also like to state why you think Dream Theater are so good. I'm not saying they're not, It's just better grounds for discussion if you actually say why you do or do not like something.
Andy
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:43 |
Thx for the mature reply Blacksword. In reply to Phillpe, I thought it was obvious I was overreating to gain a response.
Blacksword, I have written many lenghty essays about Dream Theater and other proficiently advanced bands such as Liquid Tension Experiment. I will post them shortly.
I will also gladly elaborate why I find yes and genesis and pink floyd and jethro tull, etc boring. Give me a second please.
Thx
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Sharier
Forum Groupie
Joined: September 18 2005
Location: Bangladesh
Status: Offline
Points: 47
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:49 |
I would have seriously considered your opinion-- IF you only limited
your opinion here in this post. But no-- to make yourself heard, you
gave Foxtrot and Close to the Edge 1 star (so that everyone can see it
in the Prog arch home page) and wrote the same garbage. You think you
are the only musician in the forum? I am a musician myself and I bet at
least 10 percent members of the forum are musicians.
Hey nobody asked you to like Yes or Genesis. You make your choice and
don't get in my way. I will not try to attack your taste-- but I can
spew venoms too on your taste if you get in my way.
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:52 |
Sharier, once again, of course I gave the albums one star to make myself heard. I already explained that. and once more, I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. If 3 people would like to hear my real reviews then I will write them up and post them. But which album do you want me to review. I'd prefer to review Yes' close the the edge, but it's up to you.
Steve
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:58 |
DT15,
Welcome to the site. Just to be clear though, it is no acceptable for you to "make yourself heard" by ignoring the sites rules. Your reviews have been removed.
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TheProgtologist
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Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
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Points: 27802
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:04 |
DT15 wrote:
Sharier, once again, of course I gave the albums one star to make myself heard. I already explained that. and once more, I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. If 3 people would like to hear my real reviews then I will write them up and post them. But which album do you want me to review. I'd prefer to review Yes' close the the edge, but it's up to you.
Steve
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I'll say what I said in Blackswords thread about this crap.
You wasted valuable review space and ignored the review guidelines to grab attention and because you wanted to see it on the front page!!!!!
If you would have used the forum people would have trounced you and the thread would have quickly been buried by more interesting topics.
Don't waste your time writing more reviews because you lost all credibility,and I don't care what you have to say.
Welcome to the forum,what a way to make a first impression on your first day!!!!!
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DT15
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Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:07 |
quote: (sorry i lost it when the topic got closed):I'm jumping up and down in anticipation waiting for an essay from a REAL musician to tell me where I have been going wrong all these years. You are very thoughtful.
I am obviously not telling you that you have been going wrong all these years. I hope that post was a joke. I am merely going to discuss the musical attributes of a particular album and then evaluate it based on musical analysis.
Im sorry if I upset any of you. I didn't know you all took everything you read on the internet so seriously. My reviews are deleted now (obviously giong to happen), so I hope you still want to read my real review unless you've spit the dummy.
Edited by DT15
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
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Points: 27802
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:07 |
Why would anyone want to come onto a forum and spend your first day here alienating half the people here,without getting to know people,having some discussions and participating a little bit first?
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Under
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 389
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:07 |
DT15 wrote:
Sharier, once again, of course I gave the albums one star to make myself heard. I already explained that. and once more, I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. If 3 people would like to hear my real reviews then I will write them up and post them. But which album do you want me to review. I'd prefer to review Yes' close the the edge, but it's up to you.
Steve
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I cannot wait to read your reviews.
I think I cancel my plans for the weekend. What a joy.
Let me think. I would kindly ask you to review something of VDGG, something of IQ, something of Italiian prog and of course all the albums of Dream Theater. I will log in saturday morning 9 AM. I know this will be a suitable deadline for you.
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:11 |
Under wrote:
DT15 wrote:
Sharier, once again, of course I gave the albums one star to make myself heard. I already explained that. and once more, I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. If 3 people would like to hear my real reviews then I will write them up and post them. But which album do you want me to review. I'd prefer to review Yes' close the the edge, but it's up to you.
Steve
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I cannot wait to read your reviews.
I think I cancel my plans for the weekend. What a joy.
Let me think. I would kindly ask you to review something of VDGG, something of IQ, something of Italiian prog and of course all the albums of Dream Theater. I will log in saturday morning 9 AM. I know this will be a suitable deadline for you.
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Sorry if I came across as arrogant. All i'm saying is that someone asked me to post a real review and I said I would. I do believe you're being more immature than me.
PS: what makes you think this is my first day here. I have been going to this site for around a year-2 yrs
Edited by DT15
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:13 |
Under,he has written detailed essays on DT and other proficient bands such as LTE.He is obviously a DT fanboy(Nothing wrong with DT,I love them)but I bet you everything he writes about will be DT and DT side project and solo album related.
Probably thinks Premiata Forneria Marconi is on the menu in an Italian restaraunt.
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Citanul
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 14 2005
Location: South Africa
Status: Offline
Points: 430
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:14 |
DT15 wrote:
I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. |
And what exactly is so special about your reviews that you have to make
such a show about it? What makes you more qualified than the
hundreds of other people who have reviewed albums on this site?
If you don't like Yes or Genesis, then it's very easy to create a forum
topic expressing your view. The way you did it is completely
inappropriate.
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:14 |
DT15 wrote:
Under wrote:
DT15 wrote:
Sharier, once again, of course I gave the albums one star to make myself heard. I already explained that. and once more, I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention. If 3 people would like to hear my real reviews then I will write them up and post them. But which album do you want me to review. I'd prefer to review Yes' close the the edge, but it's up to you.
Steve
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I cannot wait to read your reviews.
I think I cancel my plans for the weekend. What a joy.
Let me think. I would kindly ask you to review something of VDGG, something of IQ, something of Italiian prog and of course all the albums of Dream Theater. I will log in saturday morning 9 AM. I know this will be a suitable deadline for you.
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Sorry if I came across as arrogant. All i'm saying is that someone asked me to post a real review and I said I would. I do believe you're being more immature than me.
PS: what makes you think this is my first day here. I have been going to this site for around a year-2 yrs
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It's your first day as a FORUM MEMBER.
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:15 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Under,he has written detailed essays on DT and other proficient bands such as LTE.He is obviously a DT fanboy(Nothing wrong with DT,I love them)but I bet you everything he writes about will be DT and DT side project and solo album related.
Porbably thinks Premiata Forneria Marconi is on the menu in an Italian restaraunt.
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Please don't assume you know me. And writing essays actually makes me a music critic and NOT a fan boy.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:17 |
DT15 wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Under,he has written detailed essays on DT and other proficient bands such as LTE.He is obviously a DT fanboy(Nothing wrong with DT,I love them)but I bet you everything he writes about will be DT and DT side project and solo album related.
Porbably thinks Premiata Forneria Marconi is on the menu in an Italian restaraunt.
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Please don't assume you know me. And writing essays actually makes me a music critic and NOT a fan boy.
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You assumed that you knew us.
You know,all us old geezers and our ancient music.
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Bob Greece
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Greece
Status: Offline
Points: 1823
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:17 |
I love Yes and I love Dream Theater too. Dream Theater are great musicians and so are Yes. Obviously Dream Theater are at the forefront with their musical abilities but, as it has been said many times on this site, just showing how well you can play does not necessarily mean that good music will result. There are many trained musicians on this website who love classic prog.
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NutterAlert
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 07 2005
Location: In transition
Status: Offline
Points: 2808
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:17 |
DT15 You have two ears and one mouth for a good reason.
Look, listen, evaluate before passing judgement and spouting forth.
I bet your teachers had 'fun' with you in class.
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:18 |
Citanul wrote:
DT15 wrote:
I will be sharing with you my real reviews now that I have your attention.
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And what exactly is so special about your reviews that you have to make such a show about it? What makes you more qualified than the hundreds of other people who have reviewed albums on this site? If you don't like Yes or Genesis, then it's very easy to create a forum topic expressing your view. The way you did it is completely inappropriate.
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Thx for the question Citanul.
When did I ever say my reviews were so special? Someone asked me to explain why and I agreed.
And for the 10th time, I know it was inapporprate, that was the whole point. Look what I've started now. If I didn't do what I did there would be this much commotion and I enjoy commotion. Are you going to discredit my personality now?
And no, how do you know this my first day as a forum member?
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