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    Posted: October 01 2005 at 03:23

I noticed on the front page thatAyreon's THE was at 51 and Going for the one by Yes was at 56.

This to me seems a quirk of the archives. I was wondering how many people actually prefer the Human equation over Going for the one with Awaken et al.?
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It's just a list... you don't have to follow what it says.
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Going For the One is nowhere near the same league of brilliance as The Human Equation.  I'd consider GFTO one of the weaker Yes albums, whereas THE is one of those undeniable classics in modern music.
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GFTO is one of my favourite Yes albums, only surpassed by Close to the Edge and Relayer. THE is nowhere near it, but that's just my opinion.
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Originally posted by AfanSpur AfanSpur wrote:

I noticed on the front page thatAyreon's THE was at 51 and Going for the one by Yes was at 56.

This to me seems a quirk of the archives. I was wondering how many people actually prefer the Human equation over Going for the one with Awaken et al.?

The Human Equation is an absolute highlight of modern prog. It surpasses many Yes albums ... GFTO included.

BTW: Into the Electric Castle is even better IMO. 
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Points: 1149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 05:44
Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Going For the One is nowhere near the same league of brilliance as The Human Equation.  I'd consider GFTO one of the weaker Yes albums, whereas THE is one of those undeniable classics in modern music.


You talking about the same album that contains Awaken, Turn of the Century and Wonderous Stories?
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Points: 1453 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 06:39

 

GFTO is a classic and there is no point arguing about that.

The list is made on basis on average of notes given by the reviewers, who tend to be overenthusiastic to modern music. On the other hand they try to make every effort to make a critical review of a classic album, not caring if it is not based on their subjective opinions, which are not always just. 
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Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

 

GFTO is a classic and there is no point arguing about that.

The list is made on basis on average of notes given by the reviewers, who tend to be overenthusiastic to modern music.

 That's ridiculous ... the top 10 are all classic albums.

Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

On the other hand they try to make every effort to make a critical review of a classic album, not caring if it is not based on their subjective opinions, which are not always just. 

Every rating is subjective ... how can you know that your point of view is the right one?. Isn't it possible that some of the modern albums in the top 100 are indeed as good (or even better) than many of the classic albums?
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Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Going For the One is nowhere near the same league of brilliance as The Human Equation.  I'd consider GFTO one of the weaker Yes albums, whereas THE is one of those undeniable classics in modern music.

this is one of the most humourous sentences I have read in the prog lounge in a long time...nice one, Useful!
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^ what's funny about it?
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The Human Equation is better than GFTO, it rules!
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These lists are just plain crazy really

Comparing long standing classic GFTO with anything by the cheesemeister Ayreon is surely a joke and so on
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What Are You people insane (Well, yes, You actually are)??? You are comparing 2 totally different albums.... It no use doing that!!!  The only thing that will come of that is a big flamewar (And I sure would like 2 do that while looking at post like that above)...

I don't like Yes, but I love Ayreon... Others like Yes, hate Ayreon....  But the thing is that the albums where created in totally different times & give You totally different music... Comparing will only create hate
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...
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Originally posted by lovecraft lovecraft wrote:

These lists are just plain crazy really

Comparing long standing classic GFTO with anything by the cheesemeister Ayreon is surely a joke and so on

...bravo..someone with a bit of common sense in this thread!
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Points: 21174 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 08:25
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...

His post started fairly reasonable ... but he lost me somewhere around "cheesemeister".
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Points: 4928 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 08:26
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...

Well.. Why don't we start another "Delusional Old Farts vs Young pseudo prog wannabees" thread?
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Points: 21174 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 08:27
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...

Well.. Why don't we start another "Delusional Old Farts vs Young pseudo prog wannabees" thread?

Good idea ... Old fools vs. young idiots.
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Points: 19306 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 08:30
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...

His post started fairly reasonable ... but he lost me somewhere around "cheesemeister".

ok, lets take away cheesemeister, and substitute the meister of contrived, emotionally sterile, ludicrous concept which could have been written by a 15 year old after his first all night hash party....
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Points: 21174 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2005 at 08:32
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ what's funny about it?

I think that Lovecraft has summed it up rather ably...

His post started fairly reasonable ... but he lost me somewhere around "cheesemeister".

ok, lets take away cheesemeister, and substitute the meister of contrived, emotionally sterile, ludicrous concept which could have been written by a 15 year old after his first all night hash party....
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